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Noodle1545
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V7S5X Intelsat 901 27.5W

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Hello folks,

Wondering if anyone can talk me through connecting to Intelsat 27.5W using my V7S5X box?

This satellite is not in the factory satellite list so I’ve tried to add it manually. But as for the lnb settings I’ve no idea.

In any case I’ve connected to both Alcomsat 24.8W and Hispasat 30W no problem. But can’t seem to locate 27.5 Intelsat in between.

I understand 27.5w has a high symbol rate, but I was told this model could handle it. I have absolutely no idea how to scan the 11495 Vertical transponder only 🤷🏼‍♂️

Am I missing something in the satellite setup menu?

By the way, BISS code is already entered in the relevant hidden menu.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Lnb is generic and and can pick up Astra 28 no problem. Location: Marbella. Dish size is about 1m80 so fairly massive!!

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Re: V7S5X Intelsat 901 27.5W

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Check that the Longitude set for 27.5W is correct as if you are using a USALS motor to move from sat to sat you need that correct.

If the other two sats are working OK, use the same antenna settings menu for them, 9750/10600 is the most common LNB frequency.
You may need to set the motor to USALS to make it move to that location.

Let us know what settings you have in the other two satellites, LNB freq, Motor, DiSEqC switching if you have it?

If you are using a motor, like USALS or DiSEqC try this.
Use the step motor move in the motor menu and count how many steps between 24.8W and 30W
The go back half of them and try a blind scan then.


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Re: V7S5X Intelsat 901 27.5W

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Hi Owen,

Thanks for replying.

I’m not using a motor, just manually adjusting the dish by hand & using a basic Sat finder meter.

Yes using general lnb settings for all 3-4 satellites found so far, freq set to 10700.

Thanks.

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If you have a universal LNB 9750/10600, for 11495 Vertical you need to set the LNB freq to 9750/10600 or 9750 and 22kHz off.
If your Uni LNB is 10700 for the high band, to use it you need to have the 22kHz "ON".

Universal LNB's have two bands, low and high.
The "Low Freq" for the low band is commonly 9750 and is accessed with 22kHz "OFF".
The Low Freq for the high band 10600, but sometime 10700 and has 22kHz on.
This is done automatically with the uni LNB setting of 9750/10600.

If you have the Low set to 10700 and 22kHz "ON" you will not scan in 11495 as it is on the low band.

If the "basic Sat finder meter" is the tone type, as you look for a low band Vertical frequency, you need the dish / LNB on low band and V or the tone will not show if there are no H freq's on that sat.
Same thing if there are only high band freq's, you need to be on high band or the uni LNB does not see any freq's and you will not hear the tone.

The other thing that happens is the GT Media box will resend any DiSEqC, USALS / Motor commands every two seconds as it finds "No Signal" and resets the switch settings.
This means that any 22kHz "ON" is turned off so the commands can be sent using the 22kHz tone in digital form.
That means you need to move the dish slowly to allow for that.
You should not have that as you are direct on one dish.

Owen
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Re: V7S5X Intelsat 901 27.5W

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Thanks Owen, I have now set the LNB Freq to 9750 with 22k off.

So will give it another go.

Back on Hispasat 30W at present, strong signal, so will try minimal adjustments left and up.

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With you on 30w, see if you can get the following transponders, 10914H 2500 BOM (FILMS) / 12631V 30000 (Various).
Changing your lnb settings to (Universal 9750 /10600), this will confirm if you have a Universal lnb fitted.
Then try 10914H 2500, with your settings 9750 with 22k off.
To help you get 27.5w, go to (Dishpointer), put in your details, the satellite required, then move the (X) to were your dish is located, they will give information, skew of lnb, setting of dish etc.

Just checked (Dishpointer) Intelsat 901 27.5w is not listed, you could use (Satfinder)


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Thanks Den and Owen.

Bit of an update, and the good news is that I put my box on someone else’s already aligned dish, (lnb freq set to Uni 9750/10600) did a blind scan, and it picked up the channels straight away. All working fine inc. the BISS settings.

So I can confirm this box DOES work for Intelsat 27.5w 901 Satback if anybody else is curious. Quite a relief!

Bad news is that manually (without a motor) I think the satellite is difficult to find without a better Sat finder. I don’t think my basic meter is much use for this satellite, either doesn’t pick up the signal or signal is weaker and therefore doesn’t spike the meter to let you know it’s found).

It may be a case that I have to be very patient with micro movements anti-clockwise and up to see if I can get our dish to align. From my currently aligned 30W it’s supposed to be just 2.5 deg anti clockwise and +1.3 elevation. Kinda surprised with this large dish you have to be so accurate.

Someone did say this signal is a narrow beam? Could be rubbish that?! I don’t know as I’ve no clue with this stuff.

Otherwise I’ll just pay someone to come in and align it.

Thanks all again for your support!

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The bigger the dish, the more accurate you have to be with getting a signal from any satellite.
Glad to hear that you are now almost sorted.

Den

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Re: V7S5X Intelsat 901 27.5W

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Interesting Den, thank you I didn’t know that.

I’ll let you all know if I’m successful or if I’ve had to get someone in to align it

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Have you looked at your LNB and seen what kind it is?
There should be a "Low Frequency" listed.
For a universal LNB that is likely 9750/10600.
For standard LNB's, values like 13000, 10700, 10750 etc.
If yours is different, then using a already scanned TV channel will not work.
You said earlier you used 10700?

Post a pic of it here for us to see.

Owen
Dishes; 3x3m, 2.4m and 4.1m, 10+ ku, 2 movers, USARLS. V8 Combo, Pro, V8 Golden, Nova V8Pro2, GTC, Super.V7HDs, Combo and V7s V7Plus Finder, Finder-Meter V8X / UHD V7Pro GT/XCombo. Sats 100.5E to 177W. I'm a Sat hobbyist who helps out.

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Re: V7S5X Intelsat 901 27.5W

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Hi Owen, Den.

I had the receiver originally set to 10700 as I didn’t have a clue, but from what you said Owen I changed that to 9750/10600 assuming the LNB is universal (which it is).

Anyway, EUREKA! It’s now working and that’s due to all your help. I checked my neighbour’s dish elevation and their dial said 40deg so I set my dish to the same.

Bought a compass to ensure I was in the right ball park of 205-210 deg… not easy to be accurate when right at the top of a ladder!!!

But with a lot of patience and tiny, tiny movements the picture finally came on the TV 😂

An epic undertaking has now come to a successful conclusion (after almost giving up!)

Thanks again folks, your help was very much appreciated.

Richard

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Glad to hear that you are now sorted.

Den

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