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Belou-43
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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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alex.c wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:56 am
Belou-43 wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:19 pm
Belou-43 wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:50 am
alex.c wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:24 am
Belou-43 wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:47 am
alex.c wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:16 am
Belou-43 wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:41 pm
Hi,
On GTMEDIA V8X :
Fransat (French) - Eutelsat 5 West A & Eutelsat 5 West B
(With firmware : Release_V260_20210311 - 03/11/2021)
This PC6 card is not supported.
But the fransat package should be opened without the card.
The Fransat PC6 cards are supported !!!
No card in the GTMedia V8X, NO Fransat PROGRAM
PC6 card in the GTMedia V8X, Fransat PROGRAM OK !!!
But only withe the last firmware Release :V260_20210311
Oh, really?
I'm confused.
Can you please send me a TS record of the fransat TP?
Excuse my poor English......!!!
Can you explain me what you mean by: "a TS record of the fransat TP"
Satellite Eutelsat 5.0° West B

Multistream Transponder for French terrestrial relays
********************************************************
Clear now....but technical chanels.... !!!

************************************************

TP KA04 12648 V (Multistream)
Stream 1 : TF1 Séries Films, L'Equipe, Chérie 25, RMC Dec., RMC STORY
Stream 2 : C8, BFM TV, CNEWS, CSTAR, Gulli
Stream 3 : CANAL+, LCI, $ C+ CINEMA, $ C+ SPORT, $ PLANETE+, $ P. PREMIERE
TP D3 11509 H (Multistream)
Stream 1 : Fr2, Fr4, Culturebox, franceinfo:, Fr3
Stream 4 : M6, W9, Arte, Fr5, 6ter
Stream 6 : TF1, NRJ12, TMC, TFX, LCP

Fransat Channels crypted Viaccess non-standard
**************************************************************

TP B2 10971 V (Fransat crypted) :
TV5 MONDE FBS
FRANCE 3 BORDEAUX
FRANCE 3 CLERMONT-FERRAND
FRANCE 3 GRENOBLE
FRANCE 3 LIMOGES
FRANCE 3 LYON
FRANCE 3 MARSEILLE
FRANCE 3 MONTPELLIER
FRANCE 3 NANTES
FRANCE 3 RENNES
TP B6 11054 V (Fransat crypted) :
ETB1
ETB3
FRANCE 3 AMIENS
FRANCE 3 LILLE
FRANCE 3 NANCY
FRANCE 3 NICE
FRANCE 3 POITIERS
FRANCE 3 REIMS
FRANCE 3 STRASBOURG
FRANCE 3 TOULOUSE
FRANCE 3 VIA STELLA
TP B8 11096 V (Fransat crypted) :
TF1
M6
ARTE
NRJ12
FRANCE 5
CULTUREBOX
W9
6TER
TMC
TFX
LCP
NOUVELLE AQUITAINE
VIAVOSGES
KTO TV Catholique
TP B10 11137 V (Fransat crypted) :
RMC SPORT 1
BFM BUSINESS
BFM PARIS
RMC SPORT 2
BFM LYON
I24 NEWS
01 TV
BFM DICI Alpes du Sud
RT France
TP D2 11471 V (Fransat crypted) :
TF1 SERIES FILMS
L'EQUIPE
RMC STORY
RMC DECOUVERTE
CHERIE 25
CNEWS
BFM TV
C8
CSTAR
GULLI
TP D6 11554 V (Fransat crypted) :
FRANCE 2
FRANCE 3
FRANCE 4
FRANCEINFO:
CANAL+
LCI
FRANSAT ULTRA HD DEMO
Fransat Info
Sorry, TS record means the whole transport stream data of Transponder Point.
Please check this download/file.php?id=6068
You can select one Fransat TP(such as 10971 V), and record the TS, upload it to hxxps://wetransfer.com/, send me the link.
Thank you.
OK,
Just enough time to do this...
Thanks

Belou-43
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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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Belou-43 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:17 pm
alex.c wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:56 am
Belou-43 wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:19 pm
Belou-43 wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:50 am
alex.c wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:24 am
Belou-43 wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:47 am
alex.c wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:16 am
Belou-43 wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:41 pm
Hi,
On GTMEDIA V8X :
Fransat (French) - Eutelsat 5 West A & Eutelsat 5 West B
(With firmware : Release_V260_20210311 - 03/11/2021)
This PC6 card is not supported.
But the fransat package should be opened without the card.
The Fransat PC6 cards are supported !!!
No card in the GTMedia V8X, NO Fransat PROGRAM
PC6 card in the GTMedia V8X, Fransat PROGRAM OK !!!
But only withe the last firmware Release :V260_20210311
Oh, really?
I'm confused.
Can you please send me a TS record of the fransat TP?
Excuse my poor English......!!!
Can you explain me what you mean by: "a TS record of the fransat TP"
Satellite Eutelsat 5.0° West B

Multistream Transponder for French terrestrial relays
********************************************************
Clear now....but technical chanels.... !!!

************************************************

TP KA04 12648 V (Multistream)
Stream 1 : TF1 Séries Films, L'Equipe, Chérie 25, RMC Dec., RMC STORY
Stream 2 : C8, BFM TV, CNEWS, CSTAR, Gulli
Stream 3 : CANAL+, LCI, $ C+ CINEMA, $ C+ SPORT, $ PLANETE+, $ P. PREMIERE
TP D3 11509 H (Multistream)
Stream 1 : Fr2, Fr4, Culturebox, franceinfo:, Fr3
Stream 4 : M6, W9, Arte, Fr5, 6ter
Stream 6 : TF1, NRJ12, TMC, TFX, LCP

Fransat Channels crypted Viaccess non-standard
**************************************************************

TP B2 10971 V (Fransat crypted) :
TV5 MONDE FBS
FRANCE 3 BORDEAUX
FRANCE 3 CLERMONT-FERRAND
FRANCE 3 GRENOBLE
FRANCE 3 LIMOGES
FRANCE 3 LYON
FRANCE 3 MARSEILLE
FRANCE 3 MONTPELLIER
FRANCE 3 NANTES
FRANCE 3 RENNES
TP B6 11054 V (Fransat crypted) :
ETB1
ETB3
FRANCE 3 AMIENS
FRANCE 3 LILLE
FRANCE 3 NANCY
FRANCE 3 NICE
FRANCE 3 POITIERS
FRANCE 3 REIMS
FRANCE 3 STRASBOURG
FRANCE 3 TOULOUSE
FRANCE 3 VIA STELLA
TP B8 11096 V (Fransat crypted) :
TF1
M6
ARTE
NRJ12
FRANCE 5
CULTUREBOX
W9
6TER
TMC
TFX
LCP
NOUVELLE AQUITAINE
VIAVOSGES
KTO TV Catholique
TP B10 11137 V (Fransat crypted) :
RMC SPORT 1
BFM BUSINESS
BFM PARIS
RMC SPORT 2
BFM LYON
I24 NEWS
01 TV
BFM DICI Alpes du Sud
RT France
TP D2 11471 V (Fransat crypted) :
TF1 SERIES FILMS
L'EQUIPE
RMC STORY
RMC DECOUVERTE
CHERIE 25
CNEWS
BFM TV
C8
CSTAR
GULLI
TP D6 11554 V (Fransat crypted) :
FRANCE 2
FRANCE 3
FRANCE 4
FRANCEINFO:
CANAL+
LCI
FRANSAT ULTRA HD DEMO
Fransat Info
Sorry, TS record means the whole transport stream data of Transponder Point.
Please check this download/file.php?id=6068
You can select one Fransat TP(such as 10971 V), and record the TS, upload it to hxxps://wetransfer.com/, send me the link.
Thank you.
OK,
Just enough time to do this...
Thanks

Hi
I send you a Fransat TP recording (5 minutes): 11096 V (B8) : https://we.tl/t-c7Z7r9WXSj
Just for analysis: no card in the V8X, no image, no sound on the Fransat channel (just "Kryped"). With the Fransat card, IT'S OK !!!
Thank you

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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hello v8x device eutelsat 7e finds biss keys automatically?

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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hls06drm wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 8:12 am
hello v8x device eutelsat 7e finds biss keys automatically?
yes,if it can not be worked,please tell us

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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hls06drm wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 8:12 am
hello v8x device eutelsat 7e finds biss keys automatically?
Yes, only when the decoder is internet connected. 100% personally tested.
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Belou-43
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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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Hi,
Do you speak about Bis TV ???
Bis TV is on Eutelsat 5W

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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Conax CAID 0B00 for INTELSAT15 85.2E Telekarta

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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vvv476 wrote:
Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 am
Conax CAID 0B00 for INTELSAT15 85.2E Telekarta
Hi friend.
Do you mean this card works in GTMedia box?

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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alex.c wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:32 am
vvv476 wrote:
Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 am
Conax CAID 0B00 for INTELSAT15 85.2E Telekarta
Hi friend.
Do you mean this card works in GTMedia box?
Yes! But I needed to fix the TP list for correct search of channels from the satellite.

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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vvv476 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 9:14 am
alex.c wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:32 am
vvv476 wrote:
Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 am
Conax CAID 0B00 for INTELSAT15 85.2E Telekarta
Hi friend.
Do you mean this card works in GTMedia box?
Yes! But I needed to fix the TP list for correct search of channels from the satellite.
Okay, you can do the blindscan.
Thank you, friend.

MD0321
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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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Hello,
Would it be possible to add support for reading a smartcard from the VOO cable operator in Belgium in V8UHD?
The new encryption is NAGRA: CAID: 181D - Provider 00AA41.

They deleted the CAID: 100 - Provider 00AA41, during the last 15 days.
This no longer works with an astoncrypt seca-mediaguard CAM, nor in a Deltacam TWIN cam, nor in a UNICAM EVO CAM, nor on the V8UHD ...

Before the CAID 0100 was removed, it worked once on your Box V8UHD, but not always and I did not understand why it sometimes worked and sometimes not. Now it no longer works on the V8UHD

The new CAID: 181D, works on OSCAM for other users. I do not personally use OSCAM.

The solution for oscam is: add a mapping from Nagra (181D) to Seca (0100) for the provider "VOO" 00AA41.

So I'm assuming this might work with your GTMEDIA V8UHD as well.

I thank you in advance for the support of this modification, if it is possible for you, for a next update.
Last edited by MD0321 on Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:54 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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MD0321 wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:58 pm
Hello,
Would it be possible to add support for reading a smartcard from the VOO cable operator in Belgium in V8UHD?
The new encryption is NAGRA: CAID: 181D - Provider 00AA41.

They deleted the CAID: 100 - Provider 00AA41, during the last 15 days.
This no longer works with an astoncrypt seca-mediaguard CAM, nor in a Deltacam TWIN cam, nor in a UNICAM EVO CAM, nor on the V8UHD ...

Before the CAID 0100 was removed, it worked once on your Box V8UHD, but not always and I did not understand why it sometimes worked and sometimes not. Now it no longer works on the V8UHD

The new CAID: 181D, works on OSCAM for other users. I do not personally use OSCAM.
OSCAM users link about this changing: In French language

https://forum.adsl-bc.org/viewtopic.php ... 0#p1704420

or https://www.bel-com.be/viewtopic.php?f= ... 5&start=40

The solution for oscam is: add a mapping from Nagra (181D) to Seca (0100) for the provider "VOO" 00AA41.

I also use DVBVIEWER on PC with the "Old ACAMD plugin v0.6.2.0" and it still works without having to modify anything.

So I'm assuming this might work with your GTMEDIA V8UHD as well.

I thank you in advance for the support of this modification, if it is possible for you, for a next update.

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php? ... 03&lang=en
Please follow this link: download/file.php?id=6057
And record a TS of this TP and send it to me.
And Send a picture of CA information menu when you insert your card.
I will try to fix it for you.
Thank you.

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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alex.c wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:47 am
MD0321 wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:58 pm
Hello,
Would it be possible to add support for reading a smartcard from the VOO cable operator in Belgium in V8UHD?
The new encryption is NAGRA: CAID: 181D - Provider 00AA41.

They deleted the CAID: 100 - Provider 00AA41, during the last 15 days.
This no longer works with an astoncrypt seca-mediaguard CAM, nor in a Deltacam TWIN cam, nor in a UNICAM EVO CAM, nor on the V8UHD ...

Before the CAID 0100 was removed, it worked once on your Box V8UHD, but not always and I did not understand why it sometimes worked and sometimes not. Now it no longer works on the V8UHD

The new CAID: 181D, works on OSCAM for other users. I do not personally use OSCAM.
OSCAM users link about this changing: In French language

https://forum.adsl-bc.org/viewtopic.php ... 0#p1704420

or https://www.bel-com.be/viewtopic.php?f= ... 5&start=40

The solution for oscam is: add a mapping from Nagra (181D) to Seca (0100) for the provider "VOO" 00AA41.

I also use DVBVIEWER on PC with the "Old ACAMD plugin v0.6.2.0" and it still works without having to modify anything.

So I'm assuming this might work with your GTMEDIA V8UHD as well.

I thank you in advance for the support of this modification, if it is possible for you, for a next update.

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php? ... 03&lang=en
Please follow this link: download/file.php?id=6057
And record a TS of this TP and send it to me.
And Send a picture of CA information menu when you insert your card.
I will try to fix it for you.
Thank you.
Hello alex, here is the link: https://we.tl/t-uY2C31u3R5
Thank you
GTMEDIA V8 UHD SW V238 & V7 TT SW V311

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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Hello,

To Alex.c for INFO:

The smartcards paired with the original CAMs seem to be able to be used in the Unicam / Deltacam CAMs.

Maybe the GTMedia Developer Team could do the same to read these paired smartcards in the GTMedia receivers ?

WEB: Unicam2.to

hxxp: //wxw.unicam2.to/download.php

See configuration file: mod_box (02-23-2021) (can be opened with notepad)

See section:

# blockemm-bylen
# Blocks EMMs with the specified size ranges in order to try to prevent SmartCard
# pairing.
#
# If no upper bound is specified like in the below example, the upper bound is
# set to infinity, meaning that all EMMs with sizes ranging from lower bound
# to infinity are blocked.
#
# Values are provided in decimal notation.
#
blockemm-bylen=1-29,31-35,37-47,50,52-53,55-

Maybe you should try this possibility ?

Thanks
GTMEDIA V8 UHD SW V238 & V7 TT SW V311

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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MD0321 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:47 pm
Hello,

To Alex.c for INFO:

The smartcards paired with the original CAMs seem to be able to be used in the Unicam / Deltacam CAMs.

Maybe the GTMedia Developer Team could do the same to read these paired smartcards in the GTMedia receivers ?

WEB: Unicam2.to

hxxp: //wxw.unicam2.to/download.php

See configuration file: mod_box (02-23-2021) (can be opened with notepad)

See section:

# blockemm-bylen
# Blocks EMMs with the specified size ranges in order to try to prevent SmartCard
# pairing.
#
# If no upper bound is specified like in the below example, the upper bound is
# set to infinity, meaning that all EMMs with sizes ranging from lower bound
# to infinity are blocked.
#
# Values are provided in decimal notation.
#
blockemm-bylen=1-29,31-35,37-47,50,52-53,55-

Maybe you should try this possibility ?

Thanks
Yes, we can implement this function.
But once the card is paired, it is paired.
You can't unpaire it again.
Seems this is not a usefull function for most users.

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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alex.c wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:59 am
MD0321 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:47 pm
Hello,

To Alex.c for INFO:

The smartcards paired with the original CAMs seem to be able to be used in the Unicam / Deltacam CAMs.

Maybe the GTMedia Developer Team could do the same to read these paired smartcards in the GTMedia receivers ?

WEB: Unicam2.to

hxxp: //wxw.unicam2.to/download.php

See configuration file: mod_box (02-23-2021) (can be opened with notepad)

See section:

# blockemm-bylen
# Blocks EMMs with the specified size ranges in order to try to prevent SmartCard
# pairing.
#
# If no upper bound is specified like in the below example, the upper bound is
# set to infinity, meaning that all EMMs with sizes ranging from lower bound
# to infinity are blocked.
#
# Values are provided in decimal notation.
#
blockemm-bylen=1-29,31-35,37-47,50,52-53,55-

Maybe you should try this possibility ?

Thanks
Yes, we can implement this function.
But once the card is paired, it is paired.
You can't unpaire it again.
Seems this is not a usefull function for most users.

Hello, so if I understand correctly,

1. If a "paired" smartcard was initially activated in an official CAM or an official decoder, it can never be used in another box / decoder?
2. If a Smartcard is new, it could be "paired" in a V8 UHD box, with the appropriate software, but this smartcard can no longer be used in another or official decoder?
3. An already activated paired smartcard cannot be read in a unicam / deltacam then?
4. Maybe this only works if the smartcard has never been activated apart from a unicam / deltacam?
5. But they still say: " Blocks EMMs with the specified size ranges in order to try to prevent SmartCard pairing " . This seems to mean that the smartcard will not be paired, as long as it stays in a unicam deltacam ?

That's right ?

Thank you
GTMEDIA V8 UHD SW V238 & V7 TT SW V311

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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MD0321 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:55 am
alex.c wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:59 am
MD0321 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:47 pm
Hello,

To Alex.c for INFO:

The smartcards paired with the original CAMs seem to be able to be used in the Unicam / Deltacam CAMs.

Maybe the GTMedia Developer Team could do the same to read these paired smartcards in the GTMedia receivers ?

WEB: Unicam2.to

hxxp: //wxw.unicam2.to/download.php

See configuration file: mod_box (02-23-2021) (can be opened with notepad)

See section:

# blockemm-bylen
# Blocks EMMs with the specified size ranges in order to try to prevent SmartCard
# pairing.
#
# If no upper bound is specified like in the below example, the upper bound is
# set to infinity, meaning that all EMMs with sizes ranging from lower bound
# to infinity are blocked.
#
# Values are provided in decimal notation.
#
blockemm-bylen=1-29,31-35,37-47,50,52-53,55-

Maybe you should try this possibility ?

Thanks
Yes, we can implement this function.
But once the card is paired, it is paired.
You can't unpaire it again.
Seems this is not a usefull function for most users.

Hello, so if I understand correctly,

1. If a "paired" smartcard was initially activated in an official CAM or an official decoder, it can never be used in another box / decoder?
2. If a Smartcard is new, it could be "paired" in a V8 UHD box, with the appropriate software, but this smartcard can no longer be used in another or official decoder?
3. An already activated paired smartcard cannot be read in a unicam / deltacam then?
4. Maybe this only works if the smartcard has never been activated apart from a unicam / deltacam?
5. But they still say: " Blocks EMMs with the specified size ranges in order to try to prevent SmartCard pairing " . This seems to mean that the smartcard will not be paired, as long as it stays in a unicam deltacam ?

That's right ?

Thank you
Yes, you are right.
And I think paired is paired, you can't unpaire it.
Thank you.

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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An French antenna installer, very great specialist of Fransat, told me that Fransat sent codes on CA Slots of NON OFFICIAL Fransat Satellite Receivers, to burn smartcards !!! ... And one of my Fransat smartcard burnt last week !!! ??? Is it possible ??? Thanks.
My new Fransat smartcard is always running......

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Re: Smartcard supported by V8 series

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Belou-43 wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:33 am
An French antenna installer, very great specialist of Fransat, told me that Fransat sent codes on CA Slots of NON OFFICIAL Fransat Satellite Receivers, to burn smartcards !!! ... And one of my Fransat smartcard burnt last week !!! ??? Is it possible ??? Thanks.
My new Fransat smartcard is always running......
Hello,

It would be necessary to verify that the Box GTMedia, updates the rights on the Fransat smartcard or not or false ?
Until now, I always put the card back in an official decoder during the reactivation period (1X per year).
Maybe the rights update does not do correctly in a GtMedia or it destroys the smartcard.

My old Fransat PC4 cards have been rendered unreadable, when shutting down PC4 smartcards (even in an official decoder by sending appropriate codes to do so) I assume they do the same for PC6 cards older than 4 years or for cards used outside of France, illegally sold, at a high price, in large numbers by unscrupulous sellers ...

The smartcard PC4 does not display the rights, only the ATR number is readable.

@Belou-43 : Does your PC6 card have the same behavior, the rights are no longer displayed, as my old PC4 ?

So "yes" I think it is possible that Fransat can destroy a smartcard !

Before using a GTMedia V8 UHD Box, I had a Fransat PC6 card which had already stopped working for 4K channels (channel 444 to 446) and for SFR channels included for free at the frequency 11138 on 5 ° W: BFM Business and 01 TV.
This smartcard (333xxxx) continues to work for the French TNT channels taken over by Fransat on 5 ° W.
Was used in Unicam or Deltacam ... or CI+ V1.2 fransat CAM...

Explanation:

wxw.fransat.fr/conditions-generales-de-vente-et-emploi-fransat/

USE OF THE CARD - GUARANTEE

Important note: following the implementation of new technical anti-piracy provisions on May 6, 2019, if you insert your FRANSAT HD card into non-compatible equipment to receive optional pay TV offers, then it will definitely become inoperative to access these pay TV offers in the future, even in compatible equipment. To find out if your equipment is certified compatible with optional pay TV offers, declare it in your Customer Area on wxw.fransat.fr under “My equipment”.

The best, for S2X compatible Gtmedia Boxes and with a dish larger than 80 cm, is to use the multistream frequencies 11509 H (12733 V in duplicate since May 21, 2021 ?) And 12648 V, without putting a Fransat card in the box GTMedia.


@ Belou-43: Peut-être devriez-vous essayer ceci:

wxw.fransat.fr/assistance-fransat/message-erreur/votre-message-derreur-est-chaine-bloquee-ou-acces-interdit-par-loperateur-ou-absence-de-droits/

Déclenchez le renouvellement de vos droits d’accès au bouquet FRANSAT

Le renouvellement des droits d’accès à la TNT peut parfois prendre du temps, en particulier lorsque votre équipement a été éteint pendant une longue durée.

Rendez vous sur l’une des chaînes TF1 ou W9. Veuillez patienter sur la chaîne en gardant le décodeur allumé pendant une durée qui peut aller de 40 minutes à 2 heures. Le satellite FRANSAT devrait renvoyer les informations relatives à vos droits d’accès au bouquet FRANSAT. Votre chaîne devrait apparaître dès la transmission des informations.

Il y aurait aussi des procédures avec le canal 999 et France 2, afin de retrouver les droits pour les cartes PC6 de moins de 4 ans (hors SN 333 xxxx qui peuvent durées plus de 4 ans, mais leur remplacement par des PC7 est également en cours:

wxw.telesatellite.com/actu/57874-operation-de-renouvellement-des-anciennes-cartes-fransat-pc6.html )

Si cela peut vous aider ...
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Belou-43 wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:33 am
An French antenna installer, very great specialist of Fransat, told me that Fransat sent codes on CA Slots of NON OFFICIAL Fransat Satellite Receivers, to burn smartcards !!! ... And one of my Fransat smartcard burnt last week !!! ??? Is it possible ??? Thanks.
My new Fransat smartcard is always running......
@ Belou-43

Bonjour,

il y a aussi cette procédure éventuelle suite à la perte des droits: (Ancienne et peut-être plus d'actualitée ...)

hxxps://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-35023606-message-fransat-pas-de-droits:

Si cela peut etre utile a qqun ayant ce probleme , voici le message message de Fransat reçu qq heures plus tard :

Nous vous remercions pour votre email.


Nous portons à votre connaissance que la carte à puce FRANSAT s’active automatiquement dès réception du signal du satellite EUTELSAT 5WA 5°Ouest A.

Si le message "vous n'avez pas les droits à l'audio et la vidéo" ou" vous n'avez pas accès à ce programme " apparait sur les chaines suivantes : TF1 HD, FR3 HD, M6 HD...etc. Nous vous conseillons de faire une consultation des droits en suivant les étapes dans la fiche technique en pièce jointe.

Si aucune date ne s’affiche lors de la consultation de droits ou l’apparition de droits antérieurs, il vous suffit de laisser votre décodeur allumé pendant 40 minutes à 3 heures maximum sur W9 afin de permettre la réactualisation de vos droits d’accès aux chaînes sur votre carte FRANSAT.


Si vos droits d’accès sont valable jusqu’en 2018.cela veut dire que les données de sécurité non pas été chargées sur votre carte FRANSAT et qu’il vous sera nécessaire d’effectuer les manipulations suivantes :

Commencer par sélectionner le canal 999, une mire d’image devrait apparaitre sur votre écran, laisser votre décodeur allumé sur ce même canal (1H à 2H) Puis retirer et réinsérer la carte à puce tout en restant sur le même canal.
- Si la mire disparait pour un écran noir, faire un zapping sur les canaux de la TNT. Ce qui devrait vous permettre d’avoir accès à l’ensemble du bouquet TNT

- Si la mire est toujours visible, laisser le décodeur allumé pendant 1 journée sur ce même canal (999) puis éteindre et rallumer le décodeur. Si la mire est toujours visible sur ce même canal, il vous sera nécessaire de procéder au changement de la carte, car cette dernière bloque certaines données de sécurité nécessaires aux décryptages des chaines FRANSAT.


Si cela peut vous aider ...
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Merci beaucoup pour ces réponses. Il ne me manque plus que faire d'autres vérifications (type de carte, âge, validité, etc)
Peut-être sur mon vieil Aston agréé Fransat (Même s'il donne de sérieux signes de faiblesse)...

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Belou-43 wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:56 pm
Merci beaucoup pour ces réponses. Il ne me manque plus que faire d'autres vérifications (type de carte, âge, validité, etc)
Peut-être sur mon vieil Aston agréé Fransat (Même s'il donne de sérieux signes de faiblesse)...
Bonjour,

Si cela peu aider, voici une liste du 18 avril 2018 des " anciens " et des " nouveaux " décodeur compatible Fransat pour les chaînes en option ...

hxxps://aervi.fr/pages-infos/Fransat/Liste_compatibles_incompatibles_WEB_160418.pdf

Moi j'ai acheté un module CI+ V1.3 de Neotion, pour avoir les chaines 4K temporaire et les options SFR, car je n'ai que des vieux décodeurs Fransat incompatibles (obsolescence programmée ...), Mais le GTMedia V8 UHD ne décrypte pas non plus les(la) chaine(s) 4K temporaire et les options SFR...même avec une carte Fransat active pour ces chaines !

Je n'ose pas laisser la carte trop longtemps dans le GTMedia de peur qu'elle ne se désactive, j'utilise une autre qui a perdu ses droits pour le chaînes en options avec le nouveau cryptage, mais qui fonctionne pour l'instant pour recevoir la promotion d'essai de BIS TV.
Si non, je ne mets pas la carte Fransat dans le GTMedia... ----> J'utilise les fréquences en multistream par défaut !
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Encore merci pour toutes ces infos.
En fait, je possède le GTMédia V8X, et non le V8UHD. (Détail)
Et j'ai effectivement déjà basculé depuis quelque temps sur les chaines en multistream, qui ne nécessitent pas la carte !!!
Je viens juste de sortir ma carte Fransat du décodeur, au cas ou...
De plus, aillant une parabole "Toroïdal 90", avec 4 têtes, dont une sur Eutelsat 5WB, et une sur Astra 19,2° Est, j'ai toutes les chaînes de la TNT en clair sur ces deux satellites, sans la nécessité d'avoir une carte... et j'ai suffisamment de chaînes gratuites pour ne pas chercher à avoir les chaînes payantes, ou promotionnelles !!! (Par exemple, Eurosport (en Allemand) est gratuit sur Astra, et me suffit pour l'utilisation épisodique que j'en ai !!!)

Il est juste dommage que le programme permettant d'éditer les favoris sur PC (DB Editor Tool), ne soit pas plus perfectionné, car l'édition avec la télécommande et la TV, pour se faire des liste de favoris, est juste compliqué et très long !!! Au cas ou un autre programme existerait...je suis preneur...merci

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Après lecture de ton document, je viens de me rendre compte que mon vieux Aston Diva HD Premium n'est, de toutes manières, plus compatible avec toutes les options Payantes, ou autres optionnelles...depuis 2018 !!!
Je viens de comprendre pourquoi, malgré mes nombreux essais (par curiosité), rien ne fonctionnait, à par la TNT gratuite et standard !!!
Il est vrai qu'il présentait aussi des autres signes de faiblesse (impossibilité, depuis quelques temps, de mémoriser France 3 de ma région, par exemple)
Comme quoi, il est inutile d'acheter du matériel hors de prix, qui devient de toutes manières obsolète rapidement (peut-être est-ce une des raison du dépôt de bilan d'Aston ???)
La solution la plus sûre et la plus simple (officielle) est peut-être bien le module CI+ 1.3, qui n'est pas hors de prix, et s'adapte sur la plupart des TV actuelles, et sur beaucoup de terminaux open (si on tient vraiment à avoir les options Fransat)
Je me rends compte, en tous cas, après avoir installé (dans ma famille), des terminaux Fransat, ou TNTSat, officiels et chers (Cahors, entre autres), avec des cartes à changer tous les 4 ans, très lents à démarrer, etc., que pour une installation satellite (obligatoire dans ma région montagneuse, ou les relais sont "de l'autre côté de la colline", et la TV par L'ADSL, ou la fibre, sont pour les "calendes grecques"), qu'un terminal GTMédia, du type V8X, est super. Il est (très) rapide au démarrage, gère très bien plusieurs têtes, permet d'avoir les chaînes de la TNT sans carte et sans problème (sur plusieurs satellites). Reste juste la programmation des favoris un peu fastidieuse...

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It is a pity that, with these cards, when you do a blind search, the provider's order doesn't appear as in other devices.

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