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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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RamboHack wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:58 am
One MORE TIME!...... :cry:

Feed Galaxy 19 @ 97w

Tp: 4160 V 26450

GTMEDIA v8UHD: 50 minutes...... still "AUTOBISS: Calculating!" :cry:

Another STB brand: 10 SECONDS.... Key Found! xxxxxxxxxxxxxx :roll:

Whats going on Gtmedia? i thought the problem was only with UFC feeds .... right?

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Again.
I don't promise that we can open all biss channels.
Report of issues are welcome.
If you just want to make fun of us, please don't do that.
It's meaningless.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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danuk wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:25 am
No seed for more than 1 hour "AUTOBISS: Calculating!"
there are many feeds that do not open with gtmedia


Another STB brand 5 second key Found xxxxxxxxxx second picture
Please use V8UHD to test.
I didn't implement the new mode on V8 nova yet.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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danuk wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:04 am
alex.c wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:13 am
danuk wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:25 am
No seed for more than 1 hour "AUTOBISS: Calculating!"
there are many feeds that do not open with gtmedia


Another STB brand 5 second key Found xxxxxxxxxx second picture
Please use V8UHD to test.
I didn't implement the new mode on V8 nova yet.
used both with same result
I know the problem now.
We have another way to improve the success rate of this kind of feeds.
I will let you know when we finish it.
Before that, you can keep telling the feeds not opened if you want.
Thanks.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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alex.c wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:47 am
danuk wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:04 am
alex.c wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:13 am
danuk wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:25 am
No seed for more than 1 hour "AUTOBISS: Calculating!"
there are many feeds that do not open with gtmedia


Another STB brand 5 second key Found xxxxxxxxxx second picture
Please use V8UHD to test.
I didn't implement the new mode on V8 nova yet.
used both with same result
I know the problem now.
We have another way to improve the success rate of this kind of feeds.
I will let you know when we finish it.
Before that, you can keep telling the feeds not opened if you want.
Thanks.
Glad to hear this Alex.C!

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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RamboHack wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:22 pm
alex.c wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:10 am

Again.
I don't promise that we can open all biss channels.
Report of issues are welcome.
If you just want to make fun of us, please don't do that.
It's meaningless.
Make fun of you? really?

If i didn’t spend $100 dlls on this equipment, i would just make fun of you.

But since i PAID for what is advertised as:

“FASTEST BISS AUTOROLL“

That is NO FUN for me anymore, its a COMPLAIN.

In YOUR advertise all over the web and on aliexpress, it DIDNT SAY “only a FEW Biss wild feeds would be opened with this receiver”

it didnt say that!

And in reality, i read your answers week after week, we will fix it, we are almost done, wait for the next firmware….. there is no seed on the feed!!!… and now this week the BIGGEST answer of them all:

“I don't promise that we can open all biss channels”


WOW!

If you had put THIS PHRASE on your Gtmedia V8UHD advertisement, I would NEVER have bought this receiver.
Mainly because it was the ONLY reason i wanted this equipment.

Making fun of you??? COME’ON!! Fix your server, cuz we know other servers are working 100% on ALL biss channels and stop giving us (the customers) answers like “there is no seed on the feed” knowing that other stbs opened up the SAME wild feeds IN SECONDS….literally in seconds!!

Making fun of you???? i think YOU are the one making fun of us!... “Fastest BISS Autoroll??” hahahaha

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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RamboHack wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:22 pm
alex.c wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:10 am

Again.
I don't promise that we can open all biss channels.
Report of issues are welcome.
If you just want to make fun of us, please don't do that.
It's meaningless.
Make fun of you? really?

If i didn’t spend $100 dlls on this equipment, i would just make fun of you.

But since i PAID for what is advertised as:

“FASTEST BISS AUTOROLL“

That is NO FUN for me anymore, its a COMPLAIN.

In YOUR advertise all over the web and on aliexpress, it DIDNT SAY “only a FEW Biss wild feeds would be opened with this receiver”

it didnt say that!

And in reality, i read your answers week after week, we will fix it, we are almost done, wait for the next firmware….. there is no seed on the feed!!!… and now this week the BIGGEST answer of them all:

“I don't promise that we can open all biss channels”


WOW!

If you had put THIS PHRASE on your Gtmedia V8UHD advertisement, I would NEVER have bought this receiver.
Mainly because it was the ONLY reason i wanted this equipment.

Making fun of you??? COME’ON!! Fix your server, cuz we know other servers are working 100% on ALL biss channels and stop giving us (the customers) answers like “there is no seed on the feed” knowing that other stbs opened up the SAME wild feeds IN SECONDS….literally in seconds!!

Making fun of you???? i think YOU are the one making fun of us!... “Fastest BISS Autoroll??” hahahaha

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That's right. There are some feeds we can't open correctly.
But as you can see, we didn't stop improving the autobiss server.
I think there will be one day we can Increase the success rate to 99.9%.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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The same problem am facing with gtmedia V8X I bought because of the said bisskey auto rolling but highly disappointed to discover it can not

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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Depends on what feed you wish to decode, let us members what the transponder is, will then be able to let you know if it can auto roll.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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Everyone please remember that the PayTV providers are making changes to defeat these auto BISS functions.
Remember how soon after powerVu auto roll came out that all the powerVu channel went to harder encryption.
Unlike powerVu, Biss temporary sports feeds only have one receiver to the make changes on, not 10,000 subscriber's set top boxes like powervu had. Change will happen quickly.

I have seen providers switch to tandberg from their usual BISS (IMG channel on Asiasat5@100.5e).
I have had channels open with a found code that have no video. I think these local to me channels are hiding the real VPID from the channel data.
Other channel are dropping the CW from the feed after a few moments or not having a CW at all.

As these auto BISS functions become very common, PayTV providers will change to protect their content.
No Auto BISS function can keep up with all the changes.

Enjoy what you can now.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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It is what we all call, the cat and mouse game, lets enjoy what we have, the PAYTV providers, also look at forums to keep ahead.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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3900 h 3750
3896 h 3750
On 10°e,this xxxxxxxx and xxxxxx roll it flawlessly, I believe it is very possible on gtmedia because it is better than those decoders

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Just a reminder
Please, Lets all go back and read post #1 and stick to the main objective.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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Feralkiwi wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:03 pm
Everyone please remember that the PayTV providers are making changes to defeat these auto BISS functions.
Remember how soon after powerVu auto roll came out that all the powerVu channel went to harder encryption.
Unlike powerVu, Biss temporary sports feeds only have one receiver to the make changes on, not 10,000 subscriber's set top boxes like powervu had. Change will happen quickly.

I have seen providers switch to tandberg from their usual BISS (IMG channel on Asiasat5@100.5e).
I have had channels open with a found code that have no video. I think these local to me channels are hiding the real VPID from the channel data.
Other channel are dropping the CW from the feed after a few moments or not having a CW at all.

As these auto BISS functions become very common, PayTV providers will change to protect their content.
No Auto BISS function can keep up with all the changes.

Enjoy what you can now.

Owen
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@Feralkiwi,
@Alex.c
@Cpr43
yang aneh lagi terjadi pada chanel feed laliga Spanyol di 100,5°e saat blinscan chanel tersebut tidak dapat tertangkap tapi harus input secara manual frekuensi tersebut dan itupun tidak langsung muncul atau tampak sinyalnya tapi tetap discan TP itu baru bisa tertangkap yang pada awalnya tidak muncul sinyal saat memasukan frekuensi feed tersebut. Selama ini pakai acakan biss dan tidak semua receiver bisa di chanel feed laliga Spanyol ini.
TP awalnya 3746 H 7200 sekarang 3734 H 7200.
Saya belum mencobanya di GTMedia untuk saat ini.
Semoga Tim GTMedia selalu sehat bersama keluarga tercinta.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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Two feeds in 4:2:2 on 10° E - 11304 H - SR 34000

Autobiss ok

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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I found the reason why GT Media's BISS server can't AutoRoll compared to other models.

For example, in UFC feeds,
the valid crypt8 count isno difference from the invalid crypt8 count.
In such a case, it doesn't seem to search the biss table.
However, I manually found the correct ECM with these crypt8s.

In another case, MPEG4 TS has the same video and audio valid crypt8,
These are used by the Chinese provider wild feeds.

Key cannot be found by table search with this crypt8 as MPEG4. In this case, if you can search as MPEG2 of audio,
You will find the Key.

So, Biss auto roll protocol needs to change.
If these cannot be improved, the above case will be 100% key impossible to find. If this can be improved, the success rate will increase to 95%.  It can be said that it is the highest level than other models.  want you to demonstrate the power of S/W.
Thanks.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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espaun206 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:21 am
Xsat wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:26 pm
I found the reason why GT Media's BISS server can't AutoRoll compared to other models.

For example, in UFC feeds,
the valid crypt8 count isno difference from the invalid crypt8 count.
In such a case, it doesn't seem to search the biss table.
However, I manually found the correct ECM with these crypt8s.

In another case, MPEG4 TS has the same video and audio valid crypt8,
These are used by the Chinese provider wild feeds.

Key cannot be found by table search with this crypt8 as MPEG4. In this case, if you can search as MPEG2 of audio,
You will find the Key.

So, Biss auto roll protocol needs to change.
If these cannot be improved, the above case will be 100% key impossible to find. If this can be improved, the success rate will increase to 95%.  It can be said that it is the highest level than other models.  want you to demonstrate the power of S/W.
Thanks.
You say that if they manage to implement this on the Server, they will be able to succeed with the ufc feeds and several other feeds?
Like other stb brands do
Yes, As you understand.
The success rate of key acquisition will improve each step.
More than other stb brands.

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espaun206 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:11 am
Xsat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:04 am
espaun206 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:21 am
Xsat wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:26 pm
I found the reason why GT Media's BISS server can't AutoRoll compared to other models.

For example, in UFC feeds,
the valid crypt8 count isno difference from the invalid crypt8 count.
In such a case, it doesn't seem to search the biss table.
However, I manually found the correct ECM with these crypt8s.

In another case, MPEG4 TS has the same video and audio valid crypt8,
These are used by the Chinese provider wild feeds.

Key cannot be found by table search with this crypt8 as MPEG4. In this case, if you can search as MPEG2 of audio,
You will find the Key.

So, Biss auto roll protocol needs to change.
If these cannot be improved, the above case will be 100% key impossible to find. If this can be improved, the success rate will increase to 95%.  It can be said that it is the highest level than other models.  want you to demonstrate the power of S/W.
Thanks.
You say that if they manage to implement this on the Server, they will be able to succeed with the ufc feeds and several other feeds?
Like other stb brands do
Yes, As you understand.
The success rate of key acquisition will improve each step.
More than other stb brands.
Then it's time to see if Gtmedia can implement it on the server, because it seems that they had already given up on these feed
It will be No. 1 in this world to realize what other companies cannot do.
Please Push them from you. Thanks in advance,

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Xsat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:23 am
espaun206 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:11 am
Xsat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:04 am
espaun206 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:21 am
Xsat wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:26 pm
I found the reason why GT Media's BISS server can't AutoRoll compared to other models.

For example, in UFC feeds,
the valid crypt8 count isno difference from the invalid crypt8 count.
In such a case, it doesn't seem to search the biss table.
However, I manually found the correct ECM with these crypt8s.

In another case, MPEG4 TS has the same video and audio valid crypt8,
These are used by the Chinese provider wild feeds.

Key cannot be found by table search with this crypt8 as MPEG4. In this case, if you can search as MPEG2 of audio,
You will find the Key.

So, Biss auto roll protocol needs to change.
If these cannot be improved, the above case will be 100% key impossible to find. If this can be improved, the success rate will increase to 95%.  It can be said that it is the highest level than other models.  want you to demonstrate the power of S/W.
Thanks.
You say that if they manage to implement this on the Server, they will be able to succeed with the ufc feeds and several other feeds?
Like other stb brands do
Yes, As you understand.
The success rate of key acquisition will improve each step.
More than other stb brands.
Then it's time to see if Gtmedia can implement it on the server, because it seems that they had already given up on these feed
It will be No. 1 in this world to realize what other companies cannot do.
Please Push them from you. Thanks in advance,
I will try if it works as you said.
Thanks friend.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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espaun206 wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:46 am
alex.c wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:49 am
Xsat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:23 am
espaun206 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:11 am
Xsat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:04 am
espaun206 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:21 am
Xsat wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:26 pm
I found the reason why GT Media's BISS server can't AutoRoll compared to other models.

For example, in UFC feeds,
the valid crypt8 count isno difference from the invalid crypt8 count.
In such a case, it doesn't seem to search the biss table.
However, I manually found the correct ECM with these crypt8s.

In another case, MPEG4 TS has the same video and audio valid crypt8,
These are used by the Chinese provider wild feeds.

Key cannot be found by table search with this crypt8 as MPEG4. In this case, if you can search as MPEG2 of audio,
You will find the Key.

So, Biss auto roll protocol needs to change.
If these cannot be improved, the above case will be 100% key impossible to find. If this can be improved, the success rate will increase to 95%.  It can be said that it is the highest level than other models.  want you to demonstrate the power of S/W.
Thanks.
You say that if they manage to implement this on the Server, they will be able to succeed with the ufc feeds and several other feeds?
Like other stb brands do
Yes, As you understand.
The success rate of key acquisition will improve each step.
More than other stb brands.
Then it's time to see if Gtmedia can implement it on the server, because it seems that they had already given up on these feed
It will be No. 1 in this world to realize what other companies cannot do.
Please Push them from you. Thanks in advance,
I will try if it works as you said.
Thanks friend.
@alex.When will you implement it, can we test it tomorrow?
Yes, indeed I found something interesting, thanks Xsat.
I will try to implement it, but I need more time, it's not a small change.

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Re: BISS Wild Feeds

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Xsat wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:26 pm
I found the reason why GT Media's BISS server can't AutoRoll compared to other models.

For example, in UFC feeds,
the valid crypt8 count isno difference from the invalid crypt8 count.
In such a case, it doesn't seem to search the biss table.
However, I manually found the correct ECM with these crypt8s.

In another case, MPEG4 TS has the same video and audio valid crypt8,
These are used by the Chinese provider wild feeds.

Key cannot be found by table search with this crypt8 as MPEG4. In this case, if you can search as MPEG2 of audio,
You will find the Key.

So, Biss auto roll protocol needs to change.
If these cannot be improved, the above case will be 100% key impossible to find. If this can be improved, the success rate will increase to 95%.  It can be said that it is the highest level than other models.  want you to demonstrate the power of S/W.
Thanks.
Can you please tell me how did you find the C8 from audio?
I checked that there is no C8 in audio stream either.

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