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Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:44 am
by alex.c
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:58 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:16 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:17 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:02 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:43 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:28 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:59 am
Feralkiwi wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:19 pm
xmh0511 wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:00 am
I mean your format seems a plaintext. Instead, in other softcam.key, it's a encrypted code.
These lines from the softcam.key file are text.
The codes like "BF C4 EF 57 66 6A C9" and "90 9D D8 F1 7B CF A7" are HEX ( digital format for 16 bit) I added the spaces to show the hex pairs.
The set top box then uses these as computer code.
Yes the GT Media units use plain text for users to interface with.

Owen
Perhaps, I didn't clearly express my opinion here. Such as, in the thread "Softcam key format specification", the suggested format of a powervu key is
P 005E0064 00 6F12E573566D2F ;
Instead, the format in your instruction is
909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ;
I know they are not the same data, since I don't know how to use the first format to code the data you examples. Obviously, these two formats are quite different except that they do not code the same data. It seems that the first format is called "EMM key format", I just wonder what's the difference between these two formats? Is any way to make your format transform to be the first?

13-4-2021 Dreambox Softcam key mach1 13042021.rar As far as I know, most formats of coding the file "softcam.key" choose the first format.
We still use the old powervu key format:
ECM KEY: P XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
ECM KEY: P XXXX 01 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
EMM KEY: P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ;EMM Key

All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
In Feralkiwi's instruction, the final format is "P 0000 00 909DD8F17BCFA7;2590:03980:30000:H ; " the part of keyData is "909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ", Instead, for ECM KEY, the part of keyData is a 14-bit encrypted text. In other words, the frequency, symbol rate, and polarization seem to be hidden. How to do that?
As I said, All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
Take a look at "P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" where "XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" might be "909DD8F17BCFA7", "00" might designate idx, how about "00XXXX"? what does it designate?
When you get an valid EMM key, you will get the this value.
From this website: http://www.dwdvb.com/ten-sports-pakista ... at-105-5e/, what I can get is the following table:
Channel Name: Sony Pictures Networks India
Satellite: AsiaSat 7 at 105.5°E
Frequency: 4180 V 30000
PowerVU: 00 = 9BA0B0D45F0A93
PowerVU: 01 = 785E6AFF44D7A9


According to the instruction, I can get the following code

P 00XXXX 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 00XXXX 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

I just wonder what's the correct value should replace "00XXXX" here? If no mind, please tell me.
These are ECM keys, so "00XXXX" is for SID(server ID) and it's hexadecimal.
And even better, if you don't want to set a ECM key for every channel, you can simply set it to "000000" when you are using GTMedia products.
For example:
P 000000 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 000000 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

Then these ECM keys will be checked by all Powervu channels.

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:51 am
by xmh0511
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:44 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:58 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:16 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:17 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:02 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:43 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:28 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:59 am
Feralkiwi wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:19 pm
xmh0511 wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:00 am
I mean your format seems a plaintext. Instead, in other softcam.key, it's a encrypted code.
These lines from the softcam.key file are text.
The codes like "BF C4 EF 57 66 6A C9" and "90 9D D8 F1 7B CF A7" are HEX ( digital format for 16 bit) I added the spaces to show the hex pairs.
The set top box then uses these as computer code.
Yes the GT Media units use plain text for users to interface with.

Owen
Perhaps, I didn't clearly express my opinion here. Such as, in the thread "Softcam key format specification", the suggested format of a powervu key is
P 005E0064 00 6F12E573566D2F ;
Instead, the format in your instruction is
909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ;
I know they are not the same data, since I don't know how to use the first format to code the data you examples. Obviously, these two formats are quite different except that they do not code the same data. It seems that the first format is called "EMM key format", I just wonder what's the difference between these two formats? Is any way to make your format transform to be the first?

13-4-2021 Dreambox Softcam key mach1 13042021.rar As far as I know, most formats of coding the file "softcam.key" choose the first format.
We still use the old powervu key format:
ECM KEY: P XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
ECM KEY: P XXXX 01 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
EMM KEY: P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ;EMM Key

All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
In Feralkiwi's instruction, the final format is "P 0000 00 909DD8F17BCFA7;2590:03980:30000:H ; " the part of keyData is "909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ", Instead, for ECM KEY, the part of keyData is a 14-bit encrypted text. In other words, the frequency, symbol rate, and polarization seem to be hidden. How to do that?
As I said, All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
Take a look at "P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" where "XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" might be "909DD8F17BCFA7", "00" might designate idx, how about "00XXXX"? what does it designate?
When you get an valid EMM key, you will get the this value.
From this website: http://www.dwdvb.com/ten-sports-pakista ... at-105-5e/, what I can get is the following table:
Channel Name: Sony Pictures Networks India
Satellite: AsiaSat 7 at 105.5°E
Frequency: 4180 V 30000
PowerVU: 00 = 9BA0B0D45F0A93
PowerVU: 01 = 785E6AFF44D7A9


According to the instruction, I can get the following code

P 00XXXX 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 00XXXX 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

I just wonder what's the correct value should replace "00XXXX" here? If no mind, please tell me.
These are ECM keys, so "00XXXX" is for SID(server ID) and it's hexadecimal.
And even better, if you don't want to set a ECM key for every channel, you can simply set it to "000000" when you are using GTMedia products.
For example:
P 000000 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 000000 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

Then these ECM keys will be checked by all Powervu channels.
Appreciate you. I remember that you said "000000" will such that show the image of the channel slower(anyhow, it works). Is there any way that I can find the corresponding SID for the channel?

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:40 am
by alex.c
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:51 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:44 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:58 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:16 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:17 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:02 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:43 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:28 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:59 am
Feralkiwi wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:19 pm
xmh0511 wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:00 am
I mean your format seems a plaintext. Instead, in other softcam.key, it's a encrypted code.
These lines from the softcam.key file are text.
The codes like "BF C4 EF 57 66 6A C9" and "90 9D D8 F1 7B CF A7" are HEX ( digital format for 16 bit) I added the spaces to show the hex pairs.
The set top box then uses these as computer code.
Yes the GT Media units use plain text for users to interface with.

Owen
Perhaps, I didn't clearly express my opinion here. Such as, in the thread "Softcam key format specification", the suggested format of a powervu key is
P 005E0064 00 6F12E573566D2F ;
Instead, the format in your instruction is
909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ;
I know they are not the same data, since I don't know how to use the first format to code the data you examples. Obviously, these two formats are quite different except that they do not code the same data. It seems that the first format is called "EMM key format", I just wonder what's the difference between these two formats? Is any way to make your format transform to be the first?

13-4-2021 Dreambox Softcam key mach1 13042021.rar As far as I know, most formats of coding the file "softcam.key" choose the first format.
We still use the old powervu key format:
ECM KEY: P XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
ECM KEY: P XXXX 01 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
EMM KEY: P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ;EMM Key

All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
In Feralkiwi's instruction, the final format is "P 0000 00 909DD8F17BCFA7;2590:03980:30000:H ; " the part of keyData is "909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ", Instead, for ECM KEY, the part of keyData is a 14-bit encrypted text. In other words, the frequency, symbol rate, and polarization seem to be hidden. How to do that?
As I said, All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
Take a look at "P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" where "XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" might be "909DD8F17BCFA7", "00" might designate idx, how about "00XXXX"? what does it designate?
When you get an valid EMM key, you will get the this value.
From this website: http://www.dwdvb.com/ten-sports-pakista ... at-105-5e/, what I can get is the following table:
Channel Name: Sony Pictures Networks India
Satellite: AsiaSat 7 at 105.5°E
Frequency: 4180 V 30000
PowerVU: 00 = 9BA0B0D45F0A93
PowerVU: 01 = 785E6AFF44D7A9


According to the instruction, I can get the following code

P 00XXXX 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 00XXXX 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

I just wonder what's the correct value should replace "00XXXX" here? If no mind, please tell me.
These are ECM keys, so "00XXXX" is for SID(server ID) and it's hexadecimal.
And even better, if you don't want to set a ECM key for every channel, you can simply set it to "000000" when you are using GTMedia products.
For example:
P 000000 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 000000 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

Then these ECM keys will be checked by all Powervu channels.
Appreciate you. I remember that you said "000000" will such that show the image of the channel slower(anyhow, it works). Is there any way that I can find the corresponding SID for the channel?
Probably you will not be aware of the slowdown.
Anyway, you can find the SID on inforbar.
There are 3 PID numbers, and the right one is SID, but it's decimal.

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:56 am
by xmh0511
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:40 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:51 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:44 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:58 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:16 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:17 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:02 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:43 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:28 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:59 am
Feralkiwi wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:19 pm
xmh0511 wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:00 am
I mean your format seems a plaintext. Instead, in other softcam.key, it's a encrypted code.
These lines from the softcam.key file are text.
The codes like "BF C4 EF 57 66 6A C9" and "90 9D D8 F1 7B CF A7" are HEX ( digital format for 16 bit) I added the spaces to show the hex pairs.
The set top box then uses these as computer code.
Yes the GT Media units use plain text for users to interface with.

Owen
Perhaps, I didn't clearly express my opinion here. Such as, in the thread "Softcam key format specification", the suggested format of a powervu key is
P 005E0064 00 6F12E573566D2F ;
Instead, the format in your instruction is
909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ;
I know they are not the same data, since I don't know how to use the first format to code the data you examples. Obviously, these two formats are quite different except that they do not code the same data. It seems that the first format is called "EMM key format", I just wonder what's the difference between these two formats? Is any way to make your format transform to be the first?

13-4-2021 Dreambox Softcam key mach1 13042021.rar As far as I know, most formats of coding the file "softcam.key" choose the first format.
We still use the old powervu key format:
ECM KEY: P XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
ECM KEY: P XXXX 01 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
EMM KEY: P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ;EMM Key

All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
In Feralkiwi's instruction, the final format is "P 0000 00 909DD8F17BCFA7;2590:03980:30000:H ; " the part of keyData is "909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ", Instead, for ECM KEY, the part of keyData is a 14-bit encrypted text. In other words, the frequency, symbol rate, and polarization seem to be hidden. How to do that?
As I said, All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
Take a look at "P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" where "XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" might be "909DD8F17BCFA7", "00" might designate idx, how about "00XXXX"? what does it designate?
When you get an valid EMM key, you will get the this value.
From this website: http://www.dwdvb.com/ten-sports-pakista ... at-105-5e/, what I can get is the following table:
Channel Name: Sony Pictures Networks India
Satellite: AsiaSat 7 at 105.5°E
Frequency: 4180 V 30000
PowerVU: 00 = 9BA0B0D45F0A93
PowerVU: 01 = 785E6AFF44D7A9


According to the instruction, I can get the following code

P 00XXXX 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 00XXXX 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

I just wonder what's the correct value should replace "00XXXX" here? If no mind, please tell me.
These are ECM keys, so "00XXXX" is for SID(server ID) and it's hexadecimal.
And even better, if you don't want to set a ECM key for every channel, you can simply set it to "000000" when you are using GTMedia products.
For example:
P 000000 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 000000 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

Then these ECM keys will be checked by all Powervu channels.
Appreciate you. I remember that you said "000000" will such that show the image of the channel slower(anyhow, it works). Is there any way that I can find the corresponding SID for the channel?
Probably you will not be aware of the slowdown.
Anyway, you can find the SID on inforbar.
There are 3 PID numbers, and the right one is SID, but it's decimal.
I'm lake with the knowledge regarding how to make a "softcam.key" file. AFAIK, there is only one specification for how to put BISS keys to file but it's a bit brief. I hope you would make an introduction about how to create the file to code these Powervu, Terband, or Biss in their way if you will. Given a concrete example is very useful. I think it's also the opinion of most users who use the GTMedia series.

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:09 am
by alex.c
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:56 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:40 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:51 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:44 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:58 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:16 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:17 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:02 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:43 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:28 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:59 am
Feralkiwi wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:19 pm
xmh0511 wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:00 am
I mean your format seems a plaintext. Instead, in other softcam.key, it's a encrypted code.
These lines from the softcam.key file are text.
The codes like "BF C4 EF 57 66 6A C9" and "90 9D D8 F1 7B CF A7" are HEX ( digital format for 16 bit) I added the spaces to show the hex pairs.
The set top box then uses these as computer code.
Yes the GT Media units use plain text for users to interface with.

Owen
Perhaps, I didn't clearly express my opinion here. Such as, in the thread "Softcam key format specification", the suggested format of a powervu key is
P 005E0064 00 6F12E573566D2F ;
Instead, the format in your instruction is
909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ;
I know they are not the same data, since I don't know how to use the first format to code the data you examples. Obviously, these two formats are quite different except that they do not code the same data. It seems that the first format is called "EMM key format", I just wonder what's the difference between these two formats? Is any way to make your format transform to be the first?

13-4-2021 Dreambox Softcam key mach1 13042021.rar As far as I know, most formats of coding the file "softcam.key" choose the first format.
We still use the old powervu key format:
ECM KEY: P XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
ECM KEY: P XXXX 01 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
EMM KEY: P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ;EMM Key

All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
In Feralkiwi's instruction, the final format is "P 0000 00 909DD8F17BCFA7;2590:03980:30000:H ; " the part of keyData is "909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ", Instead, for ECM KEY, the part of keyData is a 14-bit encrypted text. In other words, the frequency, symbol rate, and polarization seem to be hidden. How to do that?
As I said, All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
Take a look at "P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" where "XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" might be "909DD8F17BCFA7", "00" might designate idx, how about "00XXXX"? what does it designate?
When you get an valid EMM key, you will get the this value.
From this website: http://www.dwdvb.com/ten-sports-pakista ... at-105-5e/, what I can get is the following table:
Channel Name: Sony Pictures Networks India
Satellite: AsiaSat 7 at 105.5°E
Frequency: 4180 V 30000
PowerVU: 00 = 9BA0B0D45F0A93
PowerVU: 01 = 785E6AFF44D7A9


According to the instruction, I can get the following code

P 00XXXX 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 00XXXX 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

I just wonder what's the correct value should replace "00XXXX" here? If no mind, please tell me.
These are ECM keys, so "00XXXX" is for SID(server ID) and it's hexadecimal.
And even better, if you don't want to set a ECM key for every channel, you can simply set it to "000000" when you are using GTMedia products.
For example:
P 000000 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 000000 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

Then these ECM keys will be checked by all Powervu channels.
Appreciate you. I remember that you said "000000" will such that show the image of the channel slower(anyhow, it works). Is there any way that I can find the corresponding SID for the channel?
Probably you will not be aware of the slowdown.
Anyway, you can find the SID on inforbar.
There are 3 PID numbers, and the right one is SID, but it's decimal.
I'm lake with the knowledge regarding how to make a "softcam.key" file. AFAIK, there is only one specification for how to put BISS keys to file but it's a bit brief. I hope you would make an introduction about how to create the file to code these Powervu, Terband, or Biss in their way if you will. Given a concrete example is very useful. I think it's also the opinion of most users who use the GTMedia series.
I will not write an introduction to tell you how to make the softcam.key file, since almost all of the Powervu EMM keys and Tandberg keys were embedded in the firmware and the autobiss keys will autoroll. :D

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:18 am
by xmh0511
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:09 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:56 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:40 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:51 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:44 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:58 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:16 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:17 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:02 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:43 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:28 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:59 am
Feralkiwi wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:19 pm
xmh0511 wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:00 am
I mean your format seems a plaintext. Instead, in other softcam.key, it's a encrypted code.
These lines from the softcam.key file are text.
The codes like "BF C4 EF 57 66 6A C9" and "90 9D D8 F1 7B CF A7" are HEX ( digital format for 16 bit) I added the spaces to show the hex pairs.
The set top box then uses these as computer code.
Yes the GT Media units use plain text for users to interface with.

Owen
Perhaps, I didn't clearly express my opinion here. Such as, in the thread "Softcam key format specification", the suggested format of a powervu key is
P 005E0064 00 6F12E573566D2F ;
Instead, the format in your instruction is
909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ;
I know they are not the same data, since I don't know how to use the first format to code the data you examples. Obviously, these two formats are quite different except that they do not code the same data. It seems that the first format is called "EMM key format", I just wonder what's the difference between these two formats? Is any way to make your format transform to be the first?

13-4-2021 Dreambox Softcam key mach1 13042021.rar As far as I know, most formats of coding the file "softcam.key" choose the first format.
We still use the old powervu key format:
ECM KEY: P XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
ECM KEY: P XXXX 01 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
EMM KEY: P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ;EMM Key

All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
In Feralkiwi's instruction, the final format is "P 0000 00 909DD8F17BCFA7;2590:03980:30000:H ; " the part of keyData is "909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ", Instead, for ECM KEY, the part of keyData is a 14-bit encrypted text. In other words, the frequency, symbol rate, and polarization seem to be hidden. How to do that?
As I said, All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
Take a look at "P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" where "XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" might be "909DD8F17BCFA7", "00" might designate idx, how about "00XXXX"? what does it designate?
When you get an valid EMM key, you will get the this value.
From this website: http://www.dwdvb.com/ten-sports-pakista ... at-105-5e/, what I can get is the following table:
Channel Name: Sony Pictures Networks India
Satellite: AsiaSat 7 at 105.5°E
Frequency: 4180 V 30000
PowerVU: 00 = 9BA0B0D45F0A93
PowerVU: 01 = 785E6AFF44D7A9


According to the instruction, I can get the following code

P 00XXXX 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 00XXXX 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

I just wonder what's the correct value should replace "00XXXX" here? If no mind, please tell me.
These are ECM keys, so "00XXXX" is for SID(server ID) and it's hexadecimal.
And even better, if you don't want to set a ECM key for every channel, you can simply set it to "000000" when you are using GTMedia products.
For example:
P 000000 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 000000 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

Then these ECM keys will be checked by all Powervu channels.
Appreciate you. I remember that you said "000000" will such that show the image of the channel slower(anyhow, it works). Is there any way that I can find the corresponding SID for the channel?
Probably you will not be aware of the slowdown.
Anyway, you can find the SID on inforbar.
There are 3 PID numbers, and the right one is SID, but it's decimal.
I'm lake with the knowledge regarding how to make a "softcam.key" file. AFAIK, there is only one specification for how to put BISS keys to file but it's a bit brief. I hope you would make an introduction about how to create the file to code these Powervu, Terband, or Biss in their way if you will. Given a concrete example is very useful. I think it's also the opinion of most users who use the GTMedia series.
I will not write an introduction to tell you how to make the softcam.key file, since almost all of the Powervu EMM keys and Tandberg keys were embedded in the firmware and the autobiss keys will autoroll. :D
That's wonderful. One more question is, Is that EMM a variant way of ECM? Such as
P 0000 00 7B281BF8D04C9C ; ECM key
P 0000 01 56AE3C8F2F876B ; ECM key

What's the relevant EMM key of them? As far as I know, a valid format of an EMM key is:
P 00XXXX 00 YYYYYYYYYYYYYY

As well, what is "00XXXX" here? Does it still designate server id or something others? And what is the `YYYYYYYYYYYYYY`? Does it refer to "7B281BF8D04C9C" or "56AE3C8F2F876B"?

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:09 am
by alex.c
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:18 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:09 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:56 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:40 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:51 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:44 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:58 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:16 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:17 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:02 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:43 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:28 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:59 am
Feralkiwi wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:19 pm
xmh0511 wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:00 am
I mean your format seems a plaintext. Instead, in other softcam.key, it's a encrypted code.
These lines from the softcam.key file are text.
The codes like "BF C4 EF 57 66 6A C9" and "90 9D D8 F1 7B CF A7" are HEX ( digital format for 16 bit) I added the spaces to show the hex pairs.
The set top box then uses these as computer code.
Yes the GT Media units use plain text for users to interface with.

Owen
Perhaps, I didn't clearly express my opinion here. Such as, in the thread "Softcam key format specification", the suggested format of a powervu key is
P 005E0064 00 6F12E573566D2F ;
Instead, the format in your instruction is
909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ;
I know they are not the same data, since I don't know how to use the first format to code the data you examples. Obviously, these two formats are quite different except that they do not code the same data. It seems that the first format is called "EMM key format", I just wonder what's the difference between these two formats? Is any way to make your format transform to be the first?

13-4-2021 Dreambox Softcam key mach1 13042021.rar As far as I know, most formats of coding the file "softcam.key" choose the first format.
We still use the old powervu key format:
ECM KEY: P XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
ECM KEY: P XXXX 01 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
EMM KEY: P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ;EMM Key

All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
In Feralkiwi's instruction, the final format is "P 0000 00 909DD8F17BCFA7;2590:03980:30000:H ; " the part of keyData is "909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ", Instead, for ECM KEY, the part of keyData is a 14-bit encrypted text. In other words, the frequency, symbol rate, and polarization seem to be hidden. How to do that?
As I said, All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
Take a look at "P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" where "XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" might be "909DD8F17BCFA7", "00" might designate idx, how about "00XXXX"? what does it designate?
When you get an valid EMM key, you will get the this value.
From this website: http://www.dwdvb.com/ten-sports-pakista ... at-105-5e/, what I can get is the following table:
Channel Name: Sony Pictures Networks India
Satellite: AsiaSat 7 at 105.5°E
Frequency: 4180 V 30000
PowerVU: 00 = 9BA0B0D45F0A93
PowerVU: 01 = 785E6AFF44D7A9


According to the instruction, I can get the following code

P 00XXXX 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 00XXXX 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

I just wonder what's the correct value should replace "00XXXX" here? If no mind, please tell me.
These are ECM keys, so "00XXXX" is for SID(server ID) and it's hexadecimal.
And even better, if you don't want to set a ECM key for every channel, you can simply set it to "000000" when you are using GTMedia products.
For example:
P 000000 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 000000 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

Then these ECM keys will be checked by all Powervu channels.
Appreciate you. I remember that you said "000000" will such that show the image of the channel slower(anyhow, it works). Is there any way that I can find the corresponding SID for the channel?
Probably you will not be aware of the slowdown.
Anyway, you can find the SID on inforbar.
There are 3 PID numbers, and the right one is SID, but it's decimal.
I'm lake with the knowledge regarding how to make a "softcam.key" file. AFAIK, there is only one specification for how to put BISS keys to file but it's a bit brief. I hope you would make an introduction about how to create the file to code these Powervu, Terband, or Biss in their way if you will. Given a concrete example is very useful. I think it's also the opinion of most users who use the GTMedia series.
I will not write an introduction to tell you how to make the softcam.key file, since almost all of the Powervu EMM keys and Tandberg keys were embedded in the firmware and the autobiss keys will autoroll. :D
That's wonderful. One more question is, Is that EMM a variant way of ECM? Such as
P 0000 00 7B281BF8D04C9C ; ECM key
P 0000 01 56AE3C8F2F876B ; ECM key

What's the relevant EMM key of them? As far as I know, a valid format of an EMM key is:
P 00XXXX 00 YYYYYYYYYYYYYY

As well, what is "00XXXX" here? Does it still designate server id or something others? And what is the `YYYYYYYYYYYYYY`? Does it refer to "7B281BF8D04C9C" or "56AE3C8F2F876B"?
No, EMM keys are for different purpose.
In EMM key, "00XXXX" is unique address.
As I said, when you get a valid EMM key, you will know how to use it.

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:40 pm
by xmh0511
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:09 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:18 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:09 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:56 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:40 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:51 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:44 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:58 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:16 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:17 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:02 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:43 am
alex.c wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:28 am
xmh0511 wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:59 am
Feralkiwi wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:19 pm
xmh0511 wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:00 am
I mean your format seems a plaintext. Instead, in other softcam.key, it's a encrypted code.
These lines from the softcam.key file are text.
The codes like "BF C4 EF 57 66 6A C9" and "90 9D D8 F1 7B CF A7" are HEX ( digital format for 16 bit) I added the spaces to show the hex pairs.
The set top box then uses these as computer code.
Yes the GT Media units use plain text for users to interface with.

Owen
Perhaps, I didn't clearly express my opinion here. Such as, in the thread "Softcam key format specification", the suggested format of a powervu key is
P 005E0064 00 6F12E573566D2F ;
Instead, the format in your instruction is
909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ;
I know they are not the same data, since I don't know how to use the first format to code the data you examples. Obviously, these two formats are quite different except that they do not code the same data. It seems that the first format is called "EMM key format", I just wonder what's the difference between these two formats? Is any way to make your format transform to be the first?

13-4-2021 Dreambox Softcam key mach1 13042021.rar As far as I know, most formats of coding the file "softcam.key" choose the first format.
We still use the old powervu key format:
ECM KEY: P XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
ECM KEY: P XXXX 01 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ; Discovery Science Europe HD, 1W, 12303
EMM KEY: P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX ;EMM Key

All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
In Feralkiwi's instruction, the final format is "P 0000 00 909DD8F17BCFA7;2590:03980:30000:H ; " the part of keyData is "909DD8F17BCFA7;2590: 03980: 30000: H ", Instead, for ECM KEY, the part of keyData is a 14-bit encrypted text. In other words, the frequency, symbol rate, and polarization seem to be hidden. How to do that?
As I said, All of the text after ";" are comments, just for notes.
Take a look at "P 00XXXX 00 XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" where "XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" might be "909DD8F17BCFA7", "00" might designate idx, how about "00XXXX"? what does it designate?
When you get an valid EMM key, you will get the this value.
From this website: http://www.dwdvb.com/ten-sports-pakista ... at-105-5e/, what I can get is the following table:
Channel Name: Sony Pictures Networks India
Satellite: AsiaSat 7 at 105.5°E
Frequency: 4180 V 30000
PowerVU: 00 = 9BA0B0D45F0A93
PowerVU: 01 = 785E6AFF44D7A9


According to the instruction, I can get the following code

P 00XXXX 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 00XXXX 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

I just wonder what's the correct value should replace "00XXXX" here? If no mind, please tell me.
These are ECM keys, so "00XXXX" is for SID(server ID) and it's hexadecimal.
And even better, if you don't want to set a ECM key for every channel, you can simply set it to "000000" when you are using GTMedia products.
For example:
P 000000 00 9BA0B0D45F0A93;
P 000000 01 785E6AFF44D7A9;

Then these ECM keys will be checked by all Powervu channels.
Appreciate you. I remember that you said "000000" will such that show the image of the channel slower(anyhow, it works). Is there any way that I can find the corresponding SID for the channel?
Probably you will not be aware of the slowdown.
Anyway, you can find the SID on inforbar.
There are 3 PID numbers, and the right one is SID, but it's decimal.
I'm lake with the knowledge regarding how to make a "softcam.key" file. AFAIK, there is only one specification for how to put BISS keys to file but it's a bit brief. I hope you would make an introduction about how to create the file to code these Powervu, Terband, or Biss in their way if you will. Given a concrete example is very useful. I think it's also the opinion of most users who use the GTMedia series.
I will not write an introduction to tell you how to make the softcam.key file, since almost all of the Powervu EMM keys and Tandberg keys were embedded in the firmware and the autobiss keys will autoroll. :D
That's wonderful. One more question is, Is that EMM a variant way of ECM? Such as
P 0000 00 7B281BF8D04C9C ; ECM key
P 0000 01 56AE3C8F2F876B ; ECM key

What's the relevant EMM key of them? As far as I know, a valid format of an EMM key is:
P 00XXXX 00 YYYYYYYYYYYYYY

As well, what is "00XXXX" here? Does it still designate server id or something others? And what is the `YYYYYYYYYYYYYY`? Does it refer to "7B281BF8D04C9C" or "56AE3C8F2F876B"?
No, EMM keys are for different purpose.
In EMM key, "00XXXX" is unique address.
As I said, when you get a valid EMM key, you will know how to use it.
Is it necessary that "ECM key" should be together with "EMM key" to open the scrambled program? Or, Is that ECM key is sufficient to open the program?

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:00 pm
by ghani Ajja
Maaf, yang saya tau frekuensi 4180 V 30000 di 105,5°e sudah menggunakan PVu + + belum ada receiver yang bisa membukanya kecuali receiver dengan menggunakan "IKS FOREVER" dan anda dapat menontonnya di satelit ST 2 di 88°e KU Band atau GSAT 10 di 83°e KU Band atau Dialog tv di 45°e KU Band acara tv hampir sama dengan menggunakan Scam atau cccam.
Semoga membantu.
Salam.

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:01 pm
by joetv
Hello
i was wanting to see if anyone has softcam file for 40 west to 133 west if not a key for sony movie channel on 125 west i got sound but no picture
also was wanting to know if any one else has a problem with axs tv and hdnet movies on 131 west locking up v8x receiver when you turn to that channel
they are biss any help would be appreciated
Thanks!

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:53 pm
by cpr43
joetv wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:01 pm
Hello
i was wanting to see if anyone has softcam file for 40 west to 133 west if not a key for sony movie channel on 125 west i got sound but no picture
also was wanting to know if any one else has a problem with axs tv and hdnet movies on 131 west locking up v8x receiver when you turn to that channel
they are biss any help would be appreciated
Thanks!
All keys are within the V8X firmware. Just update to the latest bin:

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=18373

axs tv and hdnet movies on 131 west moved to Biss2. There is no hack available for now,

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:47 pm
by joetv
I will try the new firmware but to let you know i hooked up my older v7hd and used the same keys i have in my v8x and the sony channel works fine on it and also the v8x must not have all the keys in it because when i took all of my keys out some of the channels wont come in on 131 west haven't tried all of the other satellites yet to see if they work or not but thanks for letting me know there was a new firmware out.

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:57 pm
by cpr43
joetv wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:47 pm
I will try the new firmware but to let you know i hooked up my older v7hd and used the same keys i have in my v8x and the sony channel works fine on it and also the v8x must not have all the keys in it because when i took all of my keys out some of the channels wont come in on 131 west haven't tried all of the other satellites yet to see if they work or not but thanks for letting me know there was a new firmware out.
Delete channels and run a fresh scan. Report those channels not opening using latest bin.

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:46 am
by joetv
Hello again
well loaded the new firmware rescanned the channels and 125 west on 3900 v 29078
here is what i have

mav hd - sound works picture has encrypted
fox life - sound works picture has encrypted
newsMax - sound works picture has encrypted
sony movie ch - sound works picture has encrypted
cinesony - no sound or picture black screen
cbeebies hd - no sound or picture black screen
liquidation sd - no sound or picture black screen
GBN - no sound or picture black screen
youtoo america - works
avc - works
ntdtv - works

and won't work with soft cam keys

and on 133 west 4020 v 29264
all channels have no sound but picture has encrypted
but all work with softcam keys

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:01 am
by joetv
well also on 133 west on 4020 v 29269
channels did not work put in softcam they all worked
deleted softcam rebooted and now they all work
don't know if that helps

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:08 pm
by cpr43
Are you leaving the channels set for a long long time to autoroll?? Posted founded keys on Softcam will open them immediately if using the right keys. Some providers are now sending data into the stream during limited time

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:56 pm
by joetv
yes left for about 2 hours on 133 west didn't work until i put softcam in it worked then deleted it rebooted and ow it still works
but 125 west still don't work on sony movie but works fine on my v7 hd receiver

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:02 pm
by cpr43
joetv wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:56 pm
yes left for about 2 hours on 133 west didn't work until i put softcam in it worked then deleted it rebooted and ow it still works
but 125 west still don't work on sony movie but works fine on my v7 hd receiver
OK, I will send a note to Alex or iq180 to take a look. Thanks

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:09 pm
by iq180
joetv wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:56 pm
yes left for about 2 hours on 133 west didn't work until i put softcam in it worked then deleted it rebooted and ow it still works
but 125 west still don't work on sony movie but works fine on my v7 hd receiver
Some providers have stop sending any data in the satellite stream and have stop all updates so you will need to add ECM keys for now, the good news is the ECM keys are not changing for now.

Re: Request a softcam.key for v8x

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:01 pm
by Murf006
can i have the keys for the sony channels on 125w. tia