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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 05/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 6.14 PM
Channel data : 11171 / H / 7200 (hdtv)
Channel name:MAIN COURT MAIN)
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos : 7°E
Event Type :
Event:Premier Padel Qatar Major 2023
Coding:FTA
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Padel
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 05/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 9.36 PM
Channel data : 11153 / V / 7200 (hdtv)
Channel name:Service_MENA_04
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos :7°E
Event Type:Serie A italy
Event:Roma-Juventus
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Freefall wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:26 am
Feralkiwi wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:25 pm
I had a 4.2.2 4k feed here in NZ yesterday.
Optus D2, GMA, 12641 V 25500 FTA
It showed a few bits of image and crackling sound some times.

The issue was it had a data rate of 60+Mb/s.

Owen
Hello, nice feed. Recently it also happened to me to catch a 4k encoded in HEVC, the bit rate was around 60Mbps.
The thing I noticed (at least with the gt media V8UHD) is the fact that already when you get close to the 20Mbps threshold, it occasionally snaps. While with lower bit rates, no problem :).
See you soon, happy Sunday :)
I have found that the GT Combo has issues with low bit rates as well.
PressTV was taken down for some time and has returned (isat19@166e ku), with bit rates sometime less than 100kb/s.
The GT Combo shows this as a series of still frames.

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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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since the beginning the feeds in 4.2.2. were indicated with a screenshot (particularity of the GTMedia combo), which is very good.
What freefall has been showing since the beginning of March (140 ads in 6 days) is only the feed data without a picture.
It looks very similar to the ads of stanley cassidy in a lot of forums in several languages.
The GT Combo has the particularity of being able to have an image of the 4.2.2. so indicating feeds without screenshot in this Gt media forum
is useless.
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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stephan94 wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:48 am
since the beginning the feeds in 4.2.2. were indicated with a screenshot (particularity of the GTMedia combo), which is very good.
What freefall has been showing since the beginning of March (140 ads in 6 days) is only the feed data without a picture.
It looks very similar to the ads of stanley cassidy in a lot of forums in several languages.
The GT Combo has the particularity of being able to have an image of the 4.2.2. so indicating feeds without screenshot in this Gt media forum
is useless.
Hi, thanks for the reply.
You should know that I have a policy (very correct in my opinion). If the author of the feed has decided to convey an encrypted signal, it must remain so.
Mine is just a passion (which I share with great pleasure), without divulging keys or images (being encrypted). I only report what passes, through the parameters.
I'm sorry but I don't share your thought, even if it's a function of the decoder, this doesn't mean that the disclosure of images is necessary. Those who watch the report can fine tune into the channel, since I'm also writing the "theme" of the feed (a glance corresponds to the right interest)
Stanley_Cassidy is a very competent and professional person (I know), you also need to know that I don't copy, but I try to understand what I'm in front of, gathering information in my mind.
This doesn't take away from the fact that anyone can (although dear good Stanley already exists), share a passion that is part of everyone.
I like to make reports in this way (among other things, I'm not even the only one; I don't see any rule about it that conveys a way), respecting the author of the feed, if so, fine, otherwise I feel forced to leave the forum, it would be a real shame, since I try to give my contribution by collecting information, which remains in the database of the site. I have this policy, sorry, no offense, but I repeat, I do not insert images, I do not divulge piracy. See you soon
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Feralkiwi wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:09 pm
Freefall wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:26 am
Feralkiwi wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:25 pm
I had a 4.2.2 4k feed here in NZ yesterday.
Optus D2, GMA, 12641 V 25500 FTA
It showed a few bits of image and crackling sound some times.

The issue was it had a data rate of 60+Mb/s.

Owen
Hello, nice feed. Recently it also happened to me to catch a 4k encoded in HEVC, the bit rate was around 60Mbps.
The thing I noticed (at least with the gt media V8UHD) is the fact that already when you get close to the 20Mbps threshold, it occasionally snaps. While with lower bit rates, no problem :).
See you soon, happy Sunday :)
I have found that the GT Combo has issues with low bit rates as well.
PressTV was taken down for some time and has returned (isat19@166e ku), with bit rates sometime less than 100kb/s.
The GT Combo shows this as a series of still frames.

Owen
At 8.40 PM (GMT) try it, if you can from your position, to tune in: 12657v 10000 ; 8W. There will be the Italian GF Vip.
Normally he too travels on high Bit Rates (about 20Mpbs), occasionally snaps.
While below that threshold I didn't notice any problems :)
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Thank you for your answer,
but in your analysis there is an important mistake;
4.2.2. is a colour chrominance system which is of much better quality than 4.2.0
it is not an encryption system.
In fact, there are 4.2.2. broadcasts that are encrypted in Biss, so we can talk about encryption.
It should also be considered that this forum is dedicated to the different GTMedia receivers with their problems
the solutions that are brought and the evolutions in one way or another and it is not a forum where we only talk
about satellite reception as it exists, and where sometimes the number of announced messages seems to be
the most important for some.
As for your Italian colleague whose speciality is to indicate all possible feeds, let's say that
In many forums where this person is moderator, the opinion about him is very reversed.
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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stephan94 wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:56 pm
Thank you for your answer,
but in your analysis there is an important mistake;
4.2.2. is a colour chrominance system which is of much better quality than 4.2.0
it is not an encryption system.
In fact, there are 4.2.2. broadcasts that are encrypted in Biss, so we can talk about encryption.
It should also be considered that this forum is dedicated to the different GTMedia receivers with their problems
the solutions that are brought and the evolutions in one way or another and it is not a forum where we only talk
about satellite reception as it exists, and where sometimes the number of announced messages seems to be
the most important for some.
As for your Italian colleague whose speciality is to indicate all possible feeds, let's say that
In many forums where this person is moderator, the opinion about him is very reversed.
I won't go into the Stanley issue (we are in a free country and everyone decides what is most correct for themselves), among other things he is a person that I personally respect, with great competence and professionalism in the sector.
I know what 4:2:2 is, I try to be clearer.
What I mean in reference to the "images" issue is simply a very simple thing, also linked to the violation of a right linked to the minimum (but always unauthorized reproduction) of something not decided by the author of the same signal.
For this reason you will never see images of any kind in my reports.
The feed hunter, in my humble opinion, looks for signals, but these signals are destined (as service channels) to platforms that will then take care of redistributing these events (for a fee or not). I do not violate these rights, I limit myself only to do what feed hunters do. Anything that happens afterwards, whether for purposes of watching a feed, or otherwise, I honestly don't care. I spoke to one of the team here (before posting), asking if it was possible post without images. The answer was clear and positive. It can be done, I don't violate any rule of the forum. I don't share your opinion, everyone does what they can in respect of their convictions (Always respecting the rules; God forbid). For me the matter ends, whether it suits you or not, I will continue on my way, I do not violate any forum rule and the choices of the author of the feed. This for me is called cleaning, understood as hunting for signals without violating anyone right, then I repeat the rest, ie for all uses that are made by the feed, are not "dictated" by myself.
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 06/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 4.56 PM
Channel data : 12657 / V / 10000 (hdtv)
Channel name:ITA494MAIN
Sat Name :Eutelsat 8 West B / Eutelsat 8 West D
Sat Pos :8.0°W
Event type:
Event:GF Vip Italy
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Other
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 06/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 6.56 PM
Channel data : 11136 / V / 7200 (hdtv)
Channel name:Service_MENA_01
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos : 7°E
Event type:Serie A Italy
Event:Sassuolo-Cremonese
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Date: 06/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 7.48 PM
Channel data : 12523 / H / 4800 (hdtv)
Channel name:CZE 001/2
Sat Name :Eutelsat 16A
Sat Pos : 16°E
Event type:
Event:Sparta Praga-Slavia Praga
Coding:FTA
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 06/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 8.15 PM
Channel data : 11683 / H / 4937
Channel name:POL-102 Main
Sat Name :Eutelsat 10A
Sat Pos : 10°E
Event type:
Event:Polskie Nagrody Filmowe
Coding:FTA
Transmits: H265/4:2:2
Category:Other
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 06/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 8.29 PM
Channel data : 11153 / V / 7200
Channel name:Service_MENA_02
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos : 7°E
Event type:Serie A Italy
Event:Torino-Bologna
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Freefall wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:25 pm
Date: 05/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 6.14 PM
Channel data : 11171 / H / 7200 (hdtv)
Channel name:MAIN COURT MAIN)
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos : 7°E
Event Type :
Event:Premier Padel Qatar Major 2023
Coding:FTA
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Padel
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 07/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 11.52 AM
Channel data : 11104 / V / 9874 (hdtv)
Channel name:ITA548 M#10 Feed A Main
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos :7°E
Event type:Uefa Europa Conference League
Event:Lazio-Az Alkaam
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Date: 07/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 11.54 AM
Channel data : 10964 / H / 14400 (hdtv)
Channel name:E386 UCL M1 PATCH1
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos :7°E
Event type:Uefa Champions League
Event:Benfica-Club Brugge
Coding:FTA
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 07/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 12.07 AM
Channel data : 10982 / H / 14400 (hdtv)
Channel name:UCL M2 MAIN FEED B1
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos :7°E
Event type:Uefa Champions League
Event:Chelsea-Dortmund
Coding:FTA
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 07/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 12.07 AM
Channel data : 10994 / H / 4937 (hdtv)
Channel name:UCL M2 MAIN FEED B2
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos :7°E
Event type:Uefa Champions League
Event:Chelsea-Dortmund
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 07/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 7.53 PM
Channel data : 11471 / V / 7200 (hdtv)
Channel name:Tower OB TX3
Sat Name :Intelsat 10-02 / Thor 5 / Thor 6 / Thor 7
Sat Pos :0.8°W
Event type:UEFA Europa Conference League
Event:Lazio-AZ Alkmaan
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 07/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 21.04 PM
Channel data : 11518 / V / 7200 (hdtv)
Channel name:No Name
Sat Name :Intelsat 10-02 / Thor 5 / Thor 6 / Thor 7
Sat Pos :0.8°W
Event type:UEFA Champions League
Event:Benfica-Club Brugge
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 07/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 21.03 PM
Channel data : 11482 / V / 7200 (hdtv)
Channel name:No Name
Sat Name :Intelsat 10-02 / Thor 5 / Thor 6 / Thor 7
Sat Pos :0.8°W
Event type:UEFA Champions League
Event:Chelsea-Borussia Dortmund
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 08/03/2023 ; Hours:Turning on the feed during the day
Channel data : 12530 / H / 3200 (hdtv)
Channel Name :
Sat Name : Eutelsat 16A
Sat Pos :16°E
Event Type :
Event:News From Czech (+12534h 3200)
Coding: FTA
Transmits: MPEG-4 / 4:2:2
Category: News
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 08/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 11.34 AM
Channel data : 11104 / V / 9874 (hdtv)
Channel name:ITA198 UEL M#06 FEED B1 MA
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos :7°E
Event type:UEFA Europa League
Event:Juventus-Friburg
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Date: 08/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 11.20 AM
Channel data : 11001 / H / 4937 (hdtv)
Channel name:UCL M1 FEED B2 main
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos :7°E
Event type:UEFA Champions League
Event:About Tothenam-Milan
Coding:BISS(ENC)
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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Re: 4:2:2 Biss Wild Feeds

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Date: 08/03/2023 ; Hours Italy: 11.18 AM
Channel data : 10963 / H / 14400 (hdtv)
Channel name:UCL M1 FEED B1 main
Sat Name :Eutelsat 7B / Eutelsat 7C
Sat Pos :7°E
Event type:UEFA Champions League
Event:Tothenam-Milan
Coding:FTA
Transmits: MPEG-4/4:2:2
Category:Sport/Football
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