Data entry for es'hail sat not possible

[hageha]

I have a V8 Finder 2 and want to align my dish to that satellite (really QO-100). I was immediatedly successful with Astra, but:

When I try to put in the 10492 MHz I get an "out of range" issue.

Other settings off the default are:
LNB Freq. 9750-10750
LNB Pol H

What other settings could prevent success?
Any help is appreciated.

Bests
Hans

[CAJE]

I have a V8 Finder 2 and want to align my dish to that satellite (really QO-100). I was immediatedly successful with Astra, but:

When I try to put in the 10492 MHz I get an "out of range" issue.

Other settings off the default are:
LNB Freq. 9750-10750
LNB Pol H

What other settings could prevent success?
Any help is appreciated.

Bests
Hans

10492 It is a MUX that has no power, there are some more in Astra

[Feralkiwi]

I have a V8 Finder 2 and want to align my dish to that satellite (really QO-100). I was immediatedly successful with Astra, but:

When I try to put in the 10492 MHz I get an "out of range" issue.

Other settings off the default are:
LNB Freq. 9750-10750
LNB Pol H

What other settings could prevent success?
Any help is appreciated.

Bests
Hans

Yes I checked with my Finder2 and I can not enter that frequency in any LNB setting.
I tried with the LNB set to 9750, 9750/10600, 9750/10750, 10750.
All return out of range for an entry under 10700

Owen

[Delirium]

I have a V8 Finder 2 and want to align my dish to that satellite (really QO-100). I was immediatedly successful with Astra, but:

When I try to put in the 10492 MHz I get an "out of range" issue.

Other settings off the default are:
LNB Freq. 9750-10750
LNB Pol H

What other settings could prevent success?
Any help is appreciated.

Bests
Hans

I think it' s possible to receive X band only with V8 UHD and perhaps with V9 Prime
viewtopic.php?p=81315#p81315

[Feralkiwi]

The finder has a spectrum analyzer. Can you "See" that TP on the spectrum?

Does that TP show during a blind scan?

10750 LNB frequency you can not enter 10492 as it is below 10700.
If you set the LNB to 11300 you can enter 11042
11300-10750=550
10492+550=11042

If the frequency is there on the IF (950-2100Mhz that is the frequency sent from the LNB), that should show it.

Owen

[hageha]

Owen,

even with these settings, I had no success. "Out of range" yet.

Bests

[Cluster.One]

The finder has a spectrum analyzer. Can you "See" that TP on the spectrum?

Does that TP show during a blind scan?

10750 LNB frequency you can not enter 10492 as it is below 10700.
If you set the LNB to 11300 you can enter 11042
11300-10750=550
10492+550=11042

If the frequency is there on the IF (950-2100Mhz that is the frequency sent from the LNB), that should show it.

Owen

I don't agree with what you suggest: by setting non-real OL. frequencies, perhaps you can deceive the instrument but in reality the local oscillator OL of LNB for the low band is and remains at 9750 MHz.

10492 MHz. -9750 MHz. = 742MHz. signal converted to IF.

Now if the tuner of the instrument covers a range of 950 MHz. - 2150 MHz. it is clear that the IF frequency 742MHz cannot be tuned.

To receive that transponder you need a set top box or an instrument that accepts inserting transponder frequencies outside the "classic" frequency band 10700 -12750 MHz. Tuner that allows reception below 950 MHz. (even if not declared) and an LNB that is capable of receiving even below 10700 MHz .

GT Media V8 Finder 2 which I also own, does not have this possibility.

This is my receipt from a few years ago with an $18 chinese box

Don't pay attention to the name of the Intelsat 14 satellite, I just used it to memorize the transponder and search for the channel

[Feralkiwi]

This is my receipt from a few years ago with an $18 chinese box

Don't pay attention to the name of the Intelsat 14 satellite, I just used it to memorize the transponder and search for the channel

I see you did get this TP with your $18 Chinses box.

Question?
What LNB did you use?
9750/10600?

If so then the 10492 is passed to the IF frequency.
It is then just a matter of if it is on the high band (22kHz "On") or the low band (22kHz "Off") for any LNB frequency setting.

You must have seen if you set the LNB freq incorrectly, you will get TP's blind scan in with 13000 and up frequencies that can not be in the ku band.
The reported freq number is just calculated from the LNB low value set and the IF freq found.

The problem here is the software does not allow for that freq to be entered, not that the freq is not in the IF.

Blind scan should? find it if it is there, but then some blind scans only scan part of the IF.
Using 5150/5750 (OCS, One Cable Solution LNB setting) will scan the full IF.

Owen

[Cluster.One]

Question?
What LNB did you use?
9750/10600?

Very common universal LNB, 9750-10600, no other specific settings, set the transponder frequency: 10492, and the game is done (V8 Finder 2 does not allow this).

The problem here is the software does not allow for that freq to be entered, not that the freq is not in the IF.

No, the problem is also that with a Universal LNB like the one I used, the converted frequency becomes: 742MHz. (10492 MHz. -9750 MHz. = 742 MHz. signal converted to IF.)

It always remains the same even if you try to deceive the instrument with different OL values, and this is the concept you don't seem to accept:

742 MHz. is a frequency that falls within the terrestrial television band and not the one expected for a satellite tuner 950-2150 MHz.

If sat tuner has filters or is blocked by software to prevent it from falling below the range, it does not allow reception below 950MHz. and it becomes impossible to tune the program.

The same thing goes for the LNB, furthermore it must not have filters otherwise it blocks signals lower than 10700 MHz

The only way to tune that transponder with the V8 Finder 2 is to use an LNB with a real local oscillator suitable for converting the frequency in the IF band 950-2150 MHz. for example OL 9450MHz.( 10492MHz.- 9450MHz.) = 1042MHz. which falls in the IF 950-2150 range.

If it is not possible to choose an LNB with this OL 9450MHz in the settings of the V8 Finder 2, you can choose another setting with which the conversion always falls within the IF range 950-2150, trasponder will be received but the indicated frequency will be incorrect.

[Feralkiwi]

Yes OK.
Well explained.

I forgot about it dropping of the IF band.

Owen