No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange) more than 4GB

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wonder
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No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange) more than 4GB

Post by wonder » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:04 am

Hola.
Hace breves semanas tengo este deco, muy bueno por cierto.
He insertado un pendrive, con el actualicé el firmware y cargué lista de canales.
El pendrive es de 16 gb.
Lo he intentado tanto en NTFS como FAT32.
Tengo dos problemas, con grabación y timeshift.

1.-Programo una grabación, tal día a tal hora, como la primera vez no lo grabó, hoy he probado.
Indico canal, que es solo una vez, hora de inicio, duración (para las pruebas le pongo 2 o 5 minutos) selecciono grabar y salvo.
Llegada la hora, efectivamente, 15 segundos antes (estoy en otro canal) me indica que, en 15 segundos va a cambiarse de canal, no toco nada, se cambia solo, y justo en el momento de cambiar de canal aparece un mensaje que indica: "No Disponible", pero sigue en el canal, y pasado el tiempo de grabación, 15 segundos antes me informa va a volver al canal inicial y así lo hace.
Voy a PVR y no hay nada grabado.

2.-Opción Timeshift: Esta habilitado en la configuración del menú, visionando cualquier canal, puslo la tecla de Play/Pause, efectivamente se pausa la imagen, pero no tengo opción de, pasado un tiempo, reanudar, solamente puedo pulsar Stop y salir, por lo que vuelve al "directo".
Instalado último firmware bajado de este mismo foro.

Gracias y un saludo.

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Hi.
A few weeks ago I have this deco, very good by the way.
I have inserted a pendrive, I updated the firmware and loaded channel list.
The pendrive is 16 gb.
I have tried both NTFS and FAT32.
I have two problems, with recording and timeshift.

1.-I schedule a recording, such day at such time, as the first time I did not record it, today I tried.
I indicate channel, which is only once, start time, duration (for tests I put 2 or 5 minutes) I select record and save.
When the time comes, indeed, 15 seconds before (I'm on another channel), it indicates that in 15 seconds it will change the channel, I don't play anything, it changes alone, and just at the moment of changing the channel a message appears indicating : "Not Available", but it is still on the channel, and after the recording time has elapsed, 15 seconds before it informs me it will return to the initial channel and it does so.
I go to PVR and there is nothing recorded.

2.-Timeshift option: It is enabled in the menu configuration, watching any channel, I press the Play / Pause key, the image is paused, but I have no option, after a while, resume, I can only press Stop and exit , so he returns to the "live".
Installed latest firmware downloaded from this same forum.

Thanks and regards!
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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange)

Post by wonder » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:54 pm

Hi,
Anybody have the problem, or its possible a issue in my gtmedia?
Thanks and regards!

A nadie le sucede, puede ser un defecto de mi gtmedia?
Gracias y un saludo!

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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange)

Post by Feralkiwi » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:45 pm

I think it will record if you leave the unit on the channel you want to record.
Also watch out for channels that have a different time than normal time. If you go away from that channel after setting the record and the normal time is after the different time, the record set is deleted.
Again leave the unit on the channel you want to record.

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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange)

Post by wonder » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:52 am

I apologize for the late reply, I have been doing some tests and when I have finished them, I make the answer.
Indeed, to make the recording must be on the channel we want to record.
We have 2 options:
1.- Leave the gtmedia on the channel we want to record (with the recording schedule).
2.-Make 2 schedules, one that changes to that channel a few minutes before (duration a few minutes before the event and up to a few minutes after the event we want to record) using the "Warning" programming option.
So far everything is right.

Problem detected for recording:
If we record anything that exceeds the initial file generated by the 4GB recording, we have a serious problem:
The gtmedia generates a second file with the name xxxxxx_2 (where the xxx are the same name as the first). This would be fine if I continued recording, I understand and deduce that gtmedia does not make files larger than 4GB, but once it generates the second file, it stops recording, that second file never exceeds 387 KB and the maximum I have seen has been 1,86MB.

I have scheduled recordings of more than 2 hours, none have recorded it well, it usually reaches about 1 hour and 33 minutes.
That is the time it takes for the first generated file to reach 4GB.
Once it reaches 4GB it creates that second file ending in _2, but stop recording.
So we can NEVER make a recording larger than 4GB (which is usually 1 hour and about 30 minutes or so).

My usb is formatted in NTFS so it supports much larger files. I have made many recordings to prove this, and in all of them the exact same thing happens.
I can never record any event that requires more than 4GB.

Any possible solution or is it a bug of / my gtmedia?

Thanks and regards.

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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange)

Post by Diaz9714 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:06 pm

Thanks, I appreciate your answer
I´ll try

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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange)

Post by wonder » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:13 pm

Diaz9714 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:06 pm
Thanks, I appreciate your answer
I´ll try
Sorry, I don't understand very well you post.
In my last post I indicate that, yes, record when you have the gtmedia in the channel, but can't record any that have more than 4GB in the usb pen.
When create a second file of the same record, stop the record...
I don't know its a but or its my gtmedia?

Regards.

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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange)

Post by pitagoras » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:54 pm

A mi me sucede lo mismo: no puedo grabar nada que ocupe mas de 4 Gb.
Por ejemplo , no puedo grabar un partido de futbol completo.
Espero que esto se pueda corregir en un nuevo firmware.

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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange)

Post by wonder » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:42 pm

pitagoras wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:54 pm
A mi me sucede lo mismo: no puedo grabar nada que ocupe mas de 4 Gb.
Por ejemplo , no puedo grabar un partido de futbol completo.
Espero que esto se pueda corregir en un nuevo firmware.
Entiendo entonces, que no es un bug de mi gtmedia, sino que es un "tema / fallo" del propio gtmedia.
Esperemos puedan arreglarlo en actualización de firmware.

Saludos.

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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange)

Post by ELecTroToRReS » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:05 am

wonder wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:52 am
I apologize for the late reply, I have been doing some tests and when I have finished them, I make the answer.
Indeed, to make the recording must be on the channel we want to record.
We have 2 options:
1.- Leave the gtmedia on the channel we want to record (with the recording schedule).
2.-Make 2 schedules, one that changes to that channel a few minutes before (duration a few minutes before the event and up to a few minutes after the event we want to record) using the "Warning" programming option.
So far everything is right.

Problem detected for recording:
If we record anything that exceeds the initial file generated by the 4GB recording, we have a serious problem:
The gtmedia generates a second file with the name xxxxxx_2 (where the xxx are the same name as the first). This would be fine if I continued recording, I understand and deduce that gtmedia does not make files larger than 4GB, but once it generates the second file, it stops recording, that second file never exceeds 387 KB and the maximum I have seen has been 1,86MB.

I have scheduled recordings of more than 2 hours, none have recorded it well, it usually reaches about 1 hour and 33 minutes.
That is the time it takes for the first generated file to reach 4GB.
Once it reaches 4GB it creates that second file ending in _2, but stop recording.
So we can NEVER make a recording larger than 4GB (which is usually 1 hour and about 30 minutes or so).

My usb is formatted in NTFS so it supports much larger files. I have made many recordings to prove this, and in all of them the exact same thing happens.
I can never record any event that requires more than 4GB.

Any possible solution or is it a bug of / my gtmedia?

Thanks and regards.
Has probado con uno de 32GB para grabaciones de larga duracion, como una pelicula de mas de 2 horas? y si apagas el time-shift y borras su correspondiente archivo.. el dispositivo le ha dado el formato el GTMedia?
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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange)

Post by wonder » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:58 pm

ELecTroToRReS wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:05 am
Has probado con uno de 32GB para grabaciones de larga duracion, como una pelicula de mas de 2 horas? y si apagas el time-shift y borras su correspondiente archivo.. el dispositivo le ha dado el formato el GTMedia?
Correcto todo.
He probado con un usb de 32 GB, mismo problema.
He apagado time-shift y eliminado archivo generado, mismo problema.
He dado formato al usb con el GTMedia, mismo problema.

Saludos.

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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange) more than 4GB

Post by rafaliyo86 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:20 pm

No es un fallo, a un familiar mío le pasaba lo mio probamos varios formatos como habéis comentado y nada. Lo dejamos por imposible

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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange) more than 4GB

Post by ELecTroToRReS » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:25 am

Salu2,
Algun compañero que pueda confirmar que ha podido hacer grabaciones de mas de 2 horas en el GTMedia V8 Nova Orange con el último firmware y de no ser con este último con cual lo ha conseguido?? Gracias!!
@wonder compa.. hace ya tiempo que no he necesitado grabar en el cacharro, dame un tiempo y comentaré aquí mi experiencia cuando lo intente con una grabación de mas de 2 horas.
Suerte.

PD: Es posible que si una grabacion que pese mas de 4GB y esta la cataloga en varios archivos de no mas de 4GB renombrados ejemplo (****001,***002) por ahi este el problema, debemos saber si el cacharro puede guardar la grabacion por larga que esta sea en un solo archivo y de ser así debería estar la unidad USB que usemos para dicha grabación con un formato de partición NTFS y siempre una sola primaria.
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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange) more than 4GB

Post by redek77 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:14 pm

I confirm the recording problem. I tried with FAT32 and NTFS. Recording turns off after about an hour. The decoder creates two files. Unable to play.

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Re: No puedo grabar / I can't record (V8 Nova Orange) more than 4GB

Post by wonder » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:28 pm

@ElecTroToRReS;
Como dice @redek77 he probado tanto en FAT32 como en NTFS, en ambos me sucede lo mismo.
El GTMedia da formato en FAT32, pero he formateado mi usb pen a NTFS y sucede exactamente lo mismo.

Genera 2 archivos (acabados en 001, 002...), pero el segundo archivo no tiene contenido ni tamaño, solo unos pocos Kb.

No es a las 2 horas, es cuando el archivo inicial alcanza los 4GB de tamaño, que suele ser al cabo de hora y media más o menos.

Saludos!

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