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Prospettive broadcast SAT

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Leggendo quanto accade, soprattutto nel mondo Sky, mi pare abbastanza chiaro che il broadcast in prospettiva verrà ridotto/abbandonato per far posto allo streaming che rende più fruibili i contenuti agli utenti in modo più flessibile, all'orario che preferiscono, interrompendo e riprendendone la visione senza necessità di memorizzare il tutto su un supporto. Sky Q pare quindi avere tracciato la strada in questa direzione. Non c'è più necessita neppure della parabola ...

Quindi mi stavo chiedendo che senso ha ancora investire nel SAT? Ritenete che abbia ancora un futuro oppure dovremo assistere ad una lenta agonia e declino?

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Re: Prospettive broadcast SAT

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I agree.

I see my local satellites failing.
First New Zealand's main TV, FTA and pay, sat (Optus D1@160e) got OLD and would not continue working for the very late / delayed replacement due 2023 and now late 2025.
They swapped it with OptusD2@152e.
They then shed services of that replacement and have scheduled a backup sat Measat to arrive and help.

Then Intelsat19@166e had a power failure and lost half its ku band TP's.

Services can now be found on 172e and 122e.

With Covid delays and maybe military / starlink priority, will these sat ever get up there?
Besides they can control what you watch and when with the net within your own single country.
Sat TV ignores boarders.

There is less and less up there each day.
Sports / race feeds no longer use satellites as the net takes over.

No new sat set top box from GT Media for a year?

Owen
Dishes; 3x3m, 2.4m and 4.1m, 10+ ku, 2 movers, USARLS. V8 Combo, Pro, V8 Golden, Nova V8Pro2, GTC, Super.V7HDs, Combo and V7s V7Plus Finder, Finder-Meter V8X / UHD V7Pro GT/XCombo. Sats 100.5E to 177W. I'm a Sat hobbyist who helps out.

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Re: Prospettive broadcast SAT

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In Italia abbiamo ancora principalmente il DVB-T, vista la morfologia del territorio (molte zone montuose) è stato utilizzato anche il DVB-S tramite un consorzio (TivùSAT) e per le TV a pagamento (Murdoch). Vedendo ciò che sta accadendo con Sky UK è abbastanza facile pronosticare che il DVB-S verrà abbandonato a breve, come hai giustamente fatto notare lo streaming è più controllabile, riescono anche a fare statistiche di utilizzo e casomai pubblicità mirate a seconda del target del cliente. Mediaset, una TV commerciale, sta facendo sperimentazione con il DVB-I, quindi anche loro sembrano puntare sullo streaming ma con il backup sul DVB-T. Visto però la diffusione della banda larga questa cessazione verrà procrastinata, ma non di tanto però.

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Re: Prospettive broadcast SAT

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And my local failures continue.

Monday and Tuesday nights Intelsat19@166e had moments of reduced signal power levels.
5 TP's dropped level for 3-4 minutes then came back up.
Other TP's on the same Ku band Vertical did not drop.
Wednesday night only 4 dropped.

TP's
12550V4278 A15K-1 (ODS)----did not drop on Tuesday.
12569V26810 Channel( distribution Mux for retransmission to DVB-T)
Enc3 (ODS) 12592v7200
Enc4 (ODS) 12602V7200
Enc5 (ODS) 12610V7200

First drop seen around 8pm then maybe another at 9pm (was away) 10pm and the last drop 1040pm NZDT.
This is as the sun goes down, so likely batteries / solar related.

OptusD2@160e
The latest from SkyNZ (NZ pay TV) looks like they will use the back up satellite they brought around, Measat3@160e.
They have set up TP's om OptusD10@156e, but I think too many users did not have twin LNB dishes (156e and 160e) and would need new dishes installed.
The orbit is so bad that MANY users loose service every night around 7pm when the satellite is way off location.
Complaints are high and this just hit the news media this week.
OptusD2@160e runs out of fuel, now said to be in April.
The replacement was due 2025, but now maybe 2027?
They already swapped OptusD2 for OptusD1. OptusD2 was formally at 152e.

Near Local all sports and racing feeds now use Starlink.
No more feeds, no more need for auto BISS.

Stories are of the tech's being paid $NZ25 for a satellite installation where they used to get $100
Tech numbers in my area are said to have dropped from 150 to 8.

Of note SkyNZ started using Ccam for their pay TV Iderto code delivery every 15 seconds.
A friend has Starlink net and when it changes satellites sometimes it has a moment of "No Net"
The Sky box sees this and thinks the net is gone for good.
The box needed power off restart.
This was fixed by connecting the Sky box via cable net from a Wifi to cable adapter.
Still No net, No TV, dumb!
Stay with the older gold chipped card, don't need net for that.

The end is nigh?
Well for these 17 year old satellites, yes.

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Dishes; 3x3m, 2.4m and 4.1m, 10+ ku, 2 movers, USARLS. V8 Combo, Pro, V8 Golden, Nova V8Pro2, GTC, Super.V7HDs, Combo and V7s V7Plus Finder, Finder-Meter V8X / UHD V7Pro GT/XCombo. Sats 100.5E to 177W. I'm a Sat hobbyist who helps out.